Name Themes: Pro or con?

Question of the Week

Thanks to all you berries who submitted QOW ideas last week—there are definitely some goodies that we will be using!  (And a special nod of thanks to anniebee, who came up with several excellent ones.)

We’ll begin with one inspired by longtime Nameberry loyalist Lola, about name themes:

Did you theme your kids names—by first letter, meaning, style?

If so, would you do it again or do you regret establishing a pattern?

If there’s a theme with your first two kids, are you committed to following it with a third?

There are both blatantly obvious and more subtle motifs–what’s your feeling about the practice in general?

And of course the door is still open for more QOW ideas.

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AJ_Bear Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 12:43 am

I’m not a mom, so I can’t say if my kids have name themes or not. However, my parents did theme the names when they had me and my two siblings.
My older sister- Amris- and I share our first and last initial. We’re both AA. Our names are quirky, and we’ve never really met other people with the same names as ours. But, my little brother’s name doesn’t seem to fit. Roger Perry A. His name is old school, and both names belong to our grandparents. I almost wish that he was a girl so the theme could be completed- he would have been an Ava. Sad. Oh well, I’m happy the way we turned out.
-Athena

dillonsfan01 Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 12:56 am

I like name themes if they are not overused. My parents did not give a theme with our first names, but instead they used a theme for our middle names. All of our siblings’ middle names start with “Kris”. I always liked it because our first names were not connected in any way even though they sounded good together together, but our middle names were our special bond.

RapunzelMom Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 2:09 am

I like it when they names fit in style, for example: short and classic names.
I don’t think it’s great when they all have the same first letter, because that rules out other great names one would have liked.

I once knew a family, here in Germany, that called their kids (no kidding):

Christel (“crystal”), Liesel (“leezl”), Giesel (“Geezl”), Ursel (“Oorzl”) and Nicci (why that?).
Those really put me off, poor women.

Nyx Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 2:59 am

I am completely against the Duggar-family style naming themes. If it happens naturally, that’s fine… However, when you restrict yourself to a certain beginning/ending letter/sound then you might end up choosing a name based on the fact that it fits the pattern and not because you like it. Siblings of Riley, Kylie, Marley and Finley sound so forced. Siblings of Riley, Kylie, Layla and Caleb sound much better and still have a subtle “l” theme if you feel the desperate need to link the names together (just my opinion).

Oh, and if it does happen naturally, you might want to consider the theme even if you are deviating from it. My two sister’s are Kelly and Shelly (almost 20 years older then I am), and I am Suzanna. I often got teased that I should have been named “Smelly” by my cousins (mostly lovingly… but teasing is teasing). While I am VERY glad that I wasn’t named Nelly or Elly, the previous theme did affect me… and I sometimes did feel left out (although, that also had something to do with the 20 year age differences!).

However, I do appreciate subtle naming themes. Soleil, Selene and Stella would make a wonderful set of MNs for three sisters. If you have a passion for classic literature, then having all of the children’s FNs or MNs be from character’s you love just gives the names that much more meaning. Just remember, the children (ESPECIALLY MULTIPLES) are individuals and should be allowed to be one – ESPECIALLY with something as close and intimate as their own names!

Finally, I have two boys, Matthew and Nathaniel “Nathan”. When I used to consider sibling names, I tried to find a name that had a “th” in the middle of it… until I realized that it was annoying enough with two children who had so many similar sounds in their names (both have an “a” followed by a “th” and both are two syllables with the first syllable stressed, when I use Nathaniel’s nickname). I’m done having children, but my girls list (created when we were first pregnant) included Elizabeth and Catherine. While I still love both names, the “th” sound would now give me pause. I’d not rule them out because of this subtle theme, but I would consider the “th” within the names and whether or not I loved the name enough to use it.

Reeny Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 5:20 am

The only theme I would ever consider would be a stylistic one; for instance, avoiding Kylie and Edmund and going for Rose and Edmund: names that are within a similar era, or of the same or similar origin (Sebastien and Amelie, for instance).

I’m personally not into matching phonetics of names. I think it sounds ‘cutesy’, and when in use, confusing. There are so many beautiful names that work well together and that have very different sounds, and therefore, comprise individual identities. Why waste the options on doubling down? – purely in my opinion. 🙂

TheMama777 Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 6:10 am

Our 3 kids have J names, and the rest will too. My grandfather is James, and all 8 of his kids have J names. Most of them (my aunts and uncles) did J first names, the rest did J middle names. My sister and I are both Js. My cousins are for the most part doing a J first name or J middle name. It probably isn’t something I would have done just on my own, but being the 4th generation of Js is very cool, and it is fun to be one of the Js!

Marginamia Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 8:09 am

Themes. hmm. I tend not to care for very obvious ones, but there are always exceptions to the rule. Yesterday, on the lovely You Can’t Call It It, I saw Oscar and Ondine, and it didn’t bother me in the slightest that they are both O names.

My own girls both have some nature element to their names, though the second chid’s is much less obvious. And they both have a Roman goddess element, though, again, the second’s is a variation of her goddess name and more readily associated with the month of the same name. I got into more detail about not wanting overt themes with them in their names stories (on my blog.)

Again, I can’t stress enough that sometimes things just work. In general I don’t lean toward it being very obvious, but I will always find a set that is that just seems to work. Sometimes it works to center your subject in a photo, and sometimes it just works to theme a set, even if most attempts at it miss a bit in terms of having a stylistically pleasing harmony.

Trustedwriter Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 8:40 am

I love thinking about my naming in terms of sibsets…I want all my children’s names to go together nicely, to have a unifying style. But I don’t like the same-first-letter theming at all. In fact, even though my favorite girl name is Coraline, I don’t think I could name my next baby that if it was a girl, because we already have a Charles, and they both begin with C! A couple of different children with the same letter is fine for me, so long as they’re not right next to each other. So maybe Charles, another name, and then Coraline… But not just Charles and Coraline.

About the practice of theming names in general, I don’t think it’s a bad thing, although sometimes if the similarities between the names are too blatant (rhyming names, first letter all the same in a large family, etc.) it can become kind of cheesy.

As a side note, though, I wish people wouldn’t refer to same-letter naming as “Duggar-style”, usually in a derogatory tone. Sure, we might dislike the style, but let’s not slam one particular family for it! Because they are well-known and their sheer number of children makes the theme more prominent, but there are lots of families who do it. 🙂

brynnash Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 9:46 am

I am not a mother yet, but I can provide some insight into mine and my brother’s names, and the plan my husband and I have for naming our children.

My last name is extremely Scottish/Irish, and my parents wanted to make sure their children had names that went well with this distinct surname. My brother’s name, Ian, is Scottish, and my name, Brynn, is Welsh. Both names sound good with our very Scottish surname. I’m sure if they had had more children, they would have stayed with Scottish/Irish/Welsh names.

Personally, I really don’t like blatant themes in naming siblings. Basically, I just want my kid’s names to go well together, probably in a similar style. For example, my all-time favorite names are Caroline, Sylvie, Desmond, and Elliot. I think they all go well together, although I would probably pair Caroline and Elliot (more common) and Sylvie and Desmond (more quirky). I love the names Siri and Kieran, but since they are much more tied to a specific culture, I probably wouldn’t use them with the more classic Caroline and Elliot. Does that make sense?

purpleprose78 Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 9:51 am

My dad has a cousin with children older than the Duggars who had three kids all with first names that started with J just like their parents who also had first names that started with J. 😀

I probably wouldn’t do the whole themed name thing for my real children, but I would totally do it as a writer.

Lola Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 10:52 am

I suggested this topic because I did theme my kids, unintentionally! Leo & Simon are both Pope names (as well as being family names), Josephine & Simon are cartoon characters, and no, I didn’t notice until Josie was almost 2!

Themes fascinate me: I have cousins who’s first initials are ABCDE, 5 member in one family (Alicia, Bill, Carol, Dina & Erica) It’s cheesy and was intentional, after A, but not noticeable until they’re all together.

I love subtle themes! 😀

smurph519 Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 11:01 am

I always thought I was against themey names for sibsets. But now that I’m about to name a second baby, I am drawn to the idea of names having a similar sound, as well as a similar style. My DD is Mira, and I’ve always loved the name Maeve. The kicker is our last name also starts with M. Do I stay away from a name I love just because it has the same letter? Or should I go with what I love… its a tough call.
PS: I still think the Duggars are way over the top – in many respects, not just naming. 🙂

Roux Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 11:26 am

I like themes if it’s not the first thing you notice. If you have to look a little deeper to see it, it’s nice. I like the idea of meanings that are the same, or that relate in some way. I also think it can be nice if they have the same number of letters or syllables, or if all the names contain a letter somewhere (although preferably not something like X, Z or Q).

However, in your face themes (Daisy, Lily and Rose), or patterns that are too matchy-matchy (Madison and Madelyn, Isaiah and Elijah), are not my style.

It also bothers me when patterns/themes do not extend to all of the children. I know a family where all of the children, except the first, have names that end in ‘ie’, while it was probably a mistake and the majority of people might not notice it, I personally wouldn’t have continued with ‘ie’ names after the second when the first little girl didn’t have one.

Marginamia Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 11:41 am

@smurph519– As I said, I think sometimes same-letter sibs work nicely. Mira and Maeve are lovely. But.. given that your surname also starts with M, I might think of going a different direction. I’m a big fan of alliteration, but that’s a lot of M. I would use Maeve in the middle slot! It could even be part of a double name. I know everyone *says* that the second name of a double names always gets dropped, but in my home town, I know of (just off the top of my head) six grown women who still go by their full double names (my own sister included.) It was never an issue in school, not an issue at work, and not with grown friends and family, either! I think double names are so nice, and using something unexpected like Maeve (in place of Ann) would be a great way to freshen it up, and give little sister her own thing. The first name could fit with sister’s in terms of being two syllables (three total with double name) or four letters. We had a similar aesthetic in naming our girls.

allisonhyatt Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 1:12 pm

We didn’t intentionally go with a theme, but when we found out we were having a third girl, and realized our first two had middle names of cherished family members that ended in an -EE sound, we decided to continue either the family name in the middle or the -EE ending in the middle (the -EE won out as we couldn’t agree on a family name to flow with the first name we had chosen)….. Alternatively, our first two gals names start with K (ending in -ah) and L (ending in -ee) and I was adamant that number 3 would not have either ofthose beginnings or endings and end up leaving somebody out of having that connection among names.

calimom Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 1:36 pm

I like themes. The origin of Alexander is Greek so I started looking at other names that were Greek (yet common in USA and internationally) that I liked (Sophia was my top choice). I ended up picking a non Greek name, yet it also happens to start with the letter A (Audrey). I am not having another child, so I do not need to worry about a theme or breaking it. They are both saint names too.

I do like when parents use names that seems equal. I know a family and the adults siblings are Ruth, Stephanie and Jennifer (they are close to 40 years old). I feel Ruth is different and as a child not as pretty/popular. i have also seen names that go over board. Cindy and Sandy both start and end with the same sound (not to mention these names are a bit dated for women in their late twenties).

hayleysaunt Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 2:43 pm

I don’t like matching initial themes, especially if the family has more than 2 children. I love the idea of matching meaning in names that are different but go together – like Aviva and Chaia (both mean life) and Lucy and Noor (both mean light).

klcalder2 Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 3:32 pm

The only really theme I’ve stuck to isn’t a major theme at all: literary. In reality, that can pertain to a lot of names. Unfortunately, I picked two names of characters who were married to each other in one particular novel. Good thing, though, is that not many people I know have read the book in question. If we have any more kids, I’d will choose another literary name, but not one from the same novel as my first two :).

Nook of Names Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 3:41 pm

Definitely, in my opinion, simply a matter of personal taste. Going with a theme can certainly help in the process of selecting a name, but it can equally be a hindrance if subscribing to a theme too rigidly makes you reject a name just because it doesn’t fit the chosen scheme.

Pansy Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 4:00 pm

I’m not really much for rhyming names (ie, Kara, Sarah and Hera) or using the same first letter but there are plenty of themes that I enjoy. For my own kids, probably the only theme I’d use is floral but that’s just because I love a lot of floral/nature names, so lots of my top names tend to be floral combos anyway. I think as long as the theme is natural and not forced (ie, Jinger Duggar or Khloe Kardashian), then it’s fine.

GoodHope Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 4:53 pm

In general, I’m anti-theme, but what really bothers me are obvious themes. Things like rhymes, matching initials, all flowers, all goddesses, all authors, and so on make me roll my eyes. I’m not bothered by themes that are hidden within middle names or are so subtle no one will notice without really looking for them.

Sibling names should be harmonious–or at least capable of peaceful coexistence–but I’ve never seen the need to create a connection between siblings with a cheezy name theme. They already have a connection: They are family.

AmandaJordan Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 5:37 pm

I never intended to have a theme but I married someone who loves family tradition and wanted very much for our family to carry on that tradition. So all 3 of our little girls have a name that starts with A…and they LOVE it. It makes them feel connected to something special and gives a sense of esteem to their family connectedness. At first it was hard for me to make the decision to go ahead with the tradition but it was a gift to the man I love most. 🙂

punkprincessphd Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 5:39 pm

As a teenager, my mom babysat for siblings Matthew, Mark, Luke … and Richard.

After we named our daughter Sorcha, my husband and I joked to family members that our future kids would be Rory, Orlaith, and Lorcan. Of course, such a tongue-twister theme would just be masochism on our part! But it did stop our parents from nagging us about names.

anniebee Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 5:42 pm

Glad I could help! There were a lot of good QOW suggestions! I really liked the one on how to put on your happy face when you hate the name someone has picked. I am just TERRIBLE at it lol.

I secretly really want to have all girls and give them all flowers (like Lavender, Iris, and Penelope nn Poppy for example) or virtue names (Beatrice, Faith, Felicity, Honor etc.), but I understand that it’s a little too cutesy to do realistically. I like the idea of subtle themes that don’t seem cutesy like a general nature theme, middle name theme, or definitely literary themes (unless they’re all from the same book or really obvious like Scout and Atticus).

I’m not huge on all having the same initial. For the previous posters who say that it’s a tradition in their family, I totally dig that and would love to carry something like that on. But in my own family, since that’s not a tradition, I probably wouldn’t. I think sometimes sticking to a theme can trap you with future names – if all your kids have “a” names but you really love Louisa, what do you do??

knallsa Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 6:20 pm

I am from a family that did the name theme thing twice! It was switched after I was born, and I wasn’t included in either of them. It was Jennifer, Jodi, Jessica, Ashley, Winter, and Wallace. Seriously, if you are going to do a theme, make sure every kid is included. I hated being left out.

auburn Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 8:43 pm

Of course ultimately the way to pick the perfect names is to choose the ones you love the most – but some people are indecisive, or have broad tastes, or just know a lot of names, and it gets harder to say “Yes, Thomas and Ava are my absolute favourites” and starts to sound more like “Can we please have 20 kids because I honestly can’t bear not to use any of these names?” So in that case, I think a subtle theme can be helpful. No rhyming or several variants of the same name, but a slightly broader ask – all word names (as the writer of the No Big Dill blog has done), or all starting with the same letter, for example.

Note, learn from the Duggars’ mistage: all starting with the same later does not work if you’re planning on having a never-ending number of kids, both because you’ll confuse them and because you’ll run out of ones you even like. But if you’re planning on a maximum of 4 kids, and there are 6 names beginning with M on your too long ‘love’ list, go for it.

sunshinetina Says:

August 31st, 2011 at 11:53 pm

Our three kids are named after those that have one before us. We attempted to try a middle name common theme, but that changed for baby 3. Also, there is a slight unintentional literary connection between the names of the first two. I am one of five kids and all of our names start with an M.

I don’t regret the connection at all, and intend to continue for the remainder of our future children.

I think for us subtle connections were better. Being someone from a common letter theme that is blatant, it’s not really fun. Many times in school my sibs. and I were referred to as one of the M’s.

tct1219 Says:

September 1st, 2011 at 12:39 am

Is it just me or does it seem like a disproportionate number of families with the same first initial choose the letter J? I of course know of several other letters but not as many as I do with J names.

loristeve39 Says:

September 2nd, 2011 at 10:54 am

I did not start out w/ a theme when I had my first daughter but when I was pregnant w/ my second I realized that I just really like E names. While some people have said that this rules out so many other choices that you might like I find that it simplifies the process so that there are not so many names to sift through and narrow down. I am now pregnant w/ our 3rd daughter and we will continue the theme. My daughters also have a secondary theme that there names where given w/ the intention of calling them by a shortened nickname version of their names. Evangeline Sophia(Eva), Emmerson Paige(Emme), Electa Seraphine(Ellie). They are also very close in age, I will have 3 under 3 when Ellie joins us in Dec and I feel that the name theme serves as a way to join them closer together as sisters. I also realize that a couple of the names have a somewhat romantic and over the top flair and I completely blame this on years of reading historical romance novels.

Cclb119 Says:

September 2nd, 2011 at 9:13 pm

I think most importantly that if you use a theme for your 1st 2 children that you should stick with it for the 3rd. Also don’t make the theme too obvious, like Grace, Hope, and Faith. That is just wierd, but I think it is nice if the names go together, like Celia & Mia, Anna & Allison, or Jane & Emma

1988Redhead Says:

September 21st, 2011 at 3:03 pm

I don’t mind themed names too much.
I have a friend that has four girls, and all the girls’ first names are names of songs.
My mom comes from a family where there are 11 children double Cs
My sister and I have the same intials ( i don’t know think it was intential) CFJ.. well her J is now not a J but we did have it.
I am also C to ABC girls. I have two cousins same age with and A and B…Accedentally happened that way. I’m the oldest and B is the youngest.
So it doesn’t bother me. Just don’t make it too obvious.

Kricket Says:

October 2nd, 2011 at 4:33 am

I have realized patterns in the names I like. I am drawn to names ending in -n or -r but the first initial varies. In my family, all of our names begin with a “K” except my father, whose starts with an “I”. So way to go dad for screwing up our naming rhythm 🙂 All of my moms sisters names begin with a “K” as well. 
Aunts: Kathy & Kayla 
Mom: Karen
Siblings: Kara & Kane
I ended up with my first and middle beginning with a “K”: Kristina Kaitlin. 
I liked having the exact initials as my siblings because anything initialed could be swapped around easily. 

UniqueNameLover Says:

October 8th, 2011 at 9:28 am

I plan on using names from Greek/Roman Mythology and Shakespeare. I may even through a couple of Native American names in there.

Ariel_Michal Says:

October 17th, 2011 at 3:36 pm

My brothers and I have a very subtle theme to our names, in that our names are all Hebrew (Ariel Michal, Samuel Israel, and Benjamin Jacob). I think this makes our names sound like they belong in a set when they’re said together, without being obviously themed. I’m not necessarily opposed to more blatant theming, such as same-first-letter theming, as long as it’s not over-the-top. For example, we had neighbors growing up named Ashleigh, Aaron, and Audra, which I think works well. But I’ve seen some over-the-top theming, and even some themes within themes. My mother, a pre-school teacher, had a student named Eli, who had sisters Ellery, Emma, and Elizabeth (nn Ella). I feel like, even though it does start with E, Emma doesn’t really go with the rest of the “El” names. Another one I felt was overboard was a girl I went to jr. high with; she and her siblings were Natalie, Kimberly, Cassidy, Zachary, and Jeremy.

caroline11278 Says:

January 23rd, 2012 at 1:23 pm

Well, I’m not having kids for a while (I’m only 13!), but I write both fanfiction with origional characters and origional stories, and it seems a pattern with me lately is nature names (Ivy and Briar, for example). I also use names that are forms of Elizabeth a lot (like Eliza).

iwillpraise Says:

February 10th, 2012 at 8:07 pm

I was about nine when I realized for the first time that my brother and I had the same initials!! Being the ever-admiring 10-yr-younger little sister of Kris, my only sibling, you can’t imagine how thrilled I was to find this out! It was very surprising to me tho, because usually my mom is predictable and I would not have predicted she would have done something so subtle–you can definitely tell she is proud of it! Such a seemingly insignificant connection between my brother and I somehow, in my mind, has always seemed to bridge that enormous age and gender gap between us! I also like the fact that my brother’s MN, John, is the same as my dad’s and my grandpa’s FN. My middle, Jean, is a variation of John, both meaning “God is gracious”. And however often I get called “Krimmie”– the combination of Kris and Kimmie– it makes our names that much more endearing and has become a loving mistake we all seem to find amusing :).

I like the combo. She chose names of the same style, and yes, even though the initials are the same, they aren’t matchy and fit together. That, I believe, is the most important factor. My husband and I are picking our names with that in mind. And seeing that I have twins in my family and BOTH his mom is a twin and his dad is a twin, it is EXTREMELY important for us to be on the same page about name themes! I am specifically choosing names(however many we may need…we aren’t even pregnant yet!) so our children won’t be confined from expressing individuality, yet names that flow together. We’ve been considering our own very classic Kimberly, Michael names to give us direction and inspiration, but what I’ve noticed about my style is that I am a bit matchy with my syllables! 😉 Seems like I ONLY pick out first names with 3 syllables– so they can be shortened but for special occasions have the option of their more formal name (like I can with mine)– with 2 syllables for middles. (I went from a 1 syllable LN to 4!!!) I also love to put names with different endings together… Maybe syllables aren’t the most connecting theme, but it is definitely one I admire!

ambermacquarrie Says:

February 18th, 2012 at 12:48 am

I grew up in a family with 5 children all named in a “duggar-style” ‘A’. Although it wasn’t anything that really bothered or effected us, I had vowed to not use that style when naming my own children.. However- something interesting happened, all of my siblings including myself have chosen names for our children that begin with ‘A’. (Not on purpose- BTW). So far we have an Acie, Avery, Addyisn, Ajay- and now I am pregnant with my 2nd child! So the time has come, and go figure- my husband and I LOVE the names Anna or Annsley for a girl.. We are trying to find variations of the name that may not start with ‘A’.. But we keep coming back to that letter. So I guess for some families it is total natural to come up with the ‘duggar-style’. Weird! But we have decided to not focus on a letter, and to choose a name we love regardless if it seems forced, and if it’s an ‘A’ name- so be it! haha

Kenzi Says:

February 29th, 2012 at 1:10 pm

My husband and I were going to theme our kids names after our son was born and we named him Emerson. We liked the ‘E’ so we named our daughter Evelyn. and when baby #3 was on the way we thought it would be a girl so we liked the name Emiyn (Em-ee-in). But it was a boy. so we named him Hanson instead. We’ve broken the ‘e’ thing, but have a subtle theme of giving unpopular middle names for our kids (Josiah, Skye, Cullen, Paxton, Elise, Carter, Arielle, Conley, Haven and River)

ozdust Says:

March 1st, 2012 at 2:24 pm

If I decide to use a theme it will be very stubble (same syllable pattern or same orgin etc..)

I know a woman with 3 boys..

Alex(14) and Andrew(11) – Classic, both “A” names

and a 6 year old named Kai.
Very modern and doesn’t start with “A”.
I understand that your naming style can change but that is so out of left field. (BTW I love Kai)

Westfall620 Says:

March 21st, 2012 at 7:14 pm

I love names with a -la sound at the end. or just an -a at the end.or boys names on girls.

Ex.
Ella, Nala, Lila, lala, Layla, Lola, jayla, Ayla, Shyla, Nola, Graciella

Noah, jayda, Seraphina, Heylia, Arabella, Kesia (Kess-I-ah), Khalia, Maliah, Leah, Carolina, Olivia, Armenia, Santana, Emma

Lea Says:

December 26th, 2012 at 9:48 pm

I would only consider a very subtle theme, such as family names or similar styles in fn or mn, such as an old fashion fn with a weird middle (Alice Plum, Edward Lark)
i would like my kids names to flow though, I am not naming my kids Edwin, Charlotte, Tom, and Everly Snow. More like Ever, Lu,x and Hudson, or Eli, Eloise and Matilda.

Mnmemily15 Says:

May 1st, 2013 at 6:02 pm

I like subtle themes in the middle spot. For example, I really would like to give my children all water related middle names because of where I grew up and how important it is to me. But I don’t think i’d go for the whole first initial or same sounds.

My boyfriend’s grandparents named their children in a somewhat theme. They have 7 children: Victor, Kathy, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, and Kevin. It’s kinda awkward because Victor’s named after his father, Kathy and Kevin are totally random, then there’s the apostles…

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