Girl Baby Names: Freddy’s sister needs a name!
They’ve got a long list of maybe-names for their baby girl, but how to narrow it down to just one? Maybe the answer comes from their family tree.
We’re expecting a little girl in October, our second. We already have a son, Frederick James, called Freddy. It’s the perfect name for us – Frederick is the name of a street that we love, and we both love his nickname. It’s not too popular, but instantly recognizable.
We fell in love with Elliott. Then my sister used it for her dog!
Next up was Annie for a while, and it’s sentimental because my mom, who we both adore, is named Ann. But we have two close friends named Annie, plus other women named Annie that are always going to be in our lives. Too many Annies.
Right now, we really like Hazel and Eliza – Eliza happened after we saw Hamilton! Other names we’ve liked are Francesca called Francie (but I hate Franny), Clancy, and Collins. We like gender neutral names a lot.
The name we choose must sound good with our one-syllable last name starting with a hard C sound, which means two or three syllables. We’d prefer something outside of the Top 100, but still recognizable. We don’t want her to have to spell her name her whole life!
Her middle name will be June, after my wife’s grandmother. We don’t like it as a first name because of our short last name.
Any great names jump out at you? Have we TOTALLY overthought this?
The Name Sage replies:
Oh, Laura, you’ve come to the right place. Overthinking names is what I do!
I jest. (Sort of.) But you might be on to something. Right now, it feels like you’re adding option after option to your list without getting any closer to The Name.
The result? Lots of maybes, but no actual name for your daughter.
It sounds like the right name for Freddy’s sister will be easy to spell, familiar but not too common, and rich with meaning.
But there is a common denominator: every name on your list carries a certain sparky energy. They feel upbeat, capable, strong. Francesca and Collins don’t exactly sound like they belong in the same family, but I can imagine them crossing the finish line, neck-and-neck, at the track meet or being co-valedictorians.
Back to Francesca for a minute: I don’t think you should choose a formal name that can (easily) lead to a nickname you dislike. And while I think Hazel is great, I should note that it currently stands at Number 52 in the US and shows no signs of slowing down. (In fact, it ranks Number 20 on our list.)
But I think there are two big categories you’ve overlooked:
Juniper and longer June names – Frederick won your hearts because it connects to a place you both love; June speaks to you because of a dear family member. I understand that June clashes with your surname, but how about a longer June name? Juniper falls somewhere between vintage Hazel and modern Collins, a choice that honors your wife’s grandmother, while giving your daughter a name all her own. Juniper ranked Number 352 last year, so I suspect you’ll hear it from time to time, but it’s still nicely uncommon.
If Juniper feels close, but not quite, there’s also Junia, an ancient name; Juno, like the goddess; and Djuna, as in poet Djuna Barnes – though that silent D makes for a lifetime of let-me-spell-it-for-you.
Susanna and other Ann names – So many names include Ann and Anna, without leading to the nickname Annie. Susanna is my first thought, maybe because it sounds so much like Freddy’s sister. You could shorten it to Susie, or even Zuzu – like the youngest daughter in It’s a Wonderful Life. Susanna doesn’t even crack the current US Top 1000, but everyone will instantly recognize it.
Let’s consider a few more names:
Delaney – Delaney sounds like a sister for Kennedy, but without the presidential ties. It also brings to mind more traditionally feminine names like Adele. I love the idea of Laney and Freddy as siblings, but there’s no need to shorten this name.
Delphine – For something completely unexpected, have you ever considered Delphine? It’s every bit as tailored as Collins, but has the femininity of Eliza. A French name, it refers to Delphi, in the ancient world. It’s also associated with dolphins and delphinium, a blue flower. An Orphan Black character made the name just slightly more familiar.
Emerson – Elliott and Collins and Clancy make me think of Emerson and Ellison. Emerson ranks Number 161 for girls, and seems likely to rise, so that might feel a little on the popular side. Ellison is much less common, but could be misheard as Allison.
Margaret or Marguerite – When I think of Frederick’s sister, I tend to think of super-classic girl names, like Margaret. (Or Marguerite for an unexpected twist.) Freddy and Maggie are great together, but Margaret is nickname-rich, and could easily shorten to Maisie or Daisy, Greta or Margot, too.
Thea – Since you mentioned Hamilton, what do you think of Thea? Theodosia, as in Aaron Burr’s daughter, inspired the musical’s heart-melting lullaby “Dear Theodosia.” It’s a lot of name, but Thea feels like a short, modern spin on the elaborate appellation.
While I do think Eliza works beautifully for your family, it might be worth considering Juniper Eliza or maybe Susanna June. It sounds like meaning was the magic that transformed Freddy from a name you liked to The Name. Maybe that can work this time around, too!
Readers, what would you suggest for Freddy’s sister?
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on April 17th, 2018 at 11:11 pm
From Laura’s list I really like the idea of Clancy as a nn: for either Clemency or Clementine, or maybe even Clarissa. I personally think Clemency nn Clancy would be great for Freddy’s sister. Also I love the suggestion of Susannah and I particularly like Zannah or Suky as nns.
Other ideas: Tabitha (Tibby, Tibs, Biddy), Georgette, Antonia, Anastasia (Tansy, Taisy, Ana, Annie), Christabel, Araminta.
on April 17th, 2018 at 11:34 pm
Eliza June sounds just absolutely perfect! Spunky and sweet, well known but not overused. Eliza and Freddy, Freddy and Eliza. Lovely. I also love the suggestion of Margaret. She’s every bit as buttoned up as Frederick but nickname Margo(t) is every bit as sweet and friendly as Freddy. Freddy and Margo is such a jaunty sounding set but both great on their own as well.
My own suggestion is Josephine called Josie for the same reasons stated above for Margaret. Frederick and Josephine, Freddy and Josie. Miranda also strikes me as a name that has a similar upbeat, spunky, strong vibe like others on your list. She’s well known but not overly popular, she has a great meaning (wonderful, to be admired), and she offers tons of nicknames. I especially like Miri with Freddy.
on April 17th, 2018 at 11:37 pm
This might sound wild, but what about October? It will be your daughter’s birth month and is a lovely word/name/time of year. It is gender neutral and I think it matches Frederick, both in syllables and in substance. Freddy and Toby? Pretty cute combo.
Of your other names, I love Calla, Hazel, and Eliza, though none are gender neutral.
Personally, I would love to be named October (which sounds female to me) but would not like to be named Clancy or Collins. Of course your girl might love those names — it’s all a crap shoot anyway!
on April 18th, 2018 at 2:18 am
I was thinking Juniper as well! I think Junie is a cute nickname too.
I think Eliza is cute and you could maybe throw Eli out there as a nickname sometimes (which reminds me of Elliot)
Here are some more suggestions that are mostly gender neutral or have gender neutral nicknames..
Frederick “Freddy” & Leighton June
Frederick “Freddy” & Georgia June “Gigi”
Frederick “Freddy” & Rory June
Frederick “Freddy” & Talia June “Tally”
Frederick “Freddy” & Devyn June
Frederick “Freddy” & Winston June “Winn/Winnie”
Frederick “Freddy” & Eden June
Frederick “Freddy” & Riley June
Frederick “Freddy” & Antoniette June “Toni”
Frederick “Freddy” & Ivy June
Frederick “Freddy” & Olympia June “oli”
Frederick “Freddy” & Arlo June
Frederick “Freddy” & Sunny june
Frederick “Freddy” & Demi June
Frederick “Freddy” & Hayden June
Frederick “Freddy” & Jaclyn June “Jackie”
Frederick “Freddy” & Kennedy June “Kenny” (I love Kennedy forgot to mention tha!”
Frederick “Freddy” & Logan June
Frederick “Freddy” & Xaviera June
Frederick “Freddy” & Chandler June
Frederick “Freddy” & Vitoria June “Vito”
Frederick “Freddy” & Nico June
Frederick “Freddy” & Mason June
on April 18th, 2018 at 2:46 am
Just wanted to add, I think Eliza is a fabulous choice, and I love the suggestion of Greta. I would do Greta on its own rather than as a nn for Margaret.
on April 18th, 2018 at 2:49 am
Eliza is great!!
on April 18th, 2018 at 3:05 am
Eliza, Susanna (Suzie) or Margaret (Maggie, Margie, May) are also perfect with Frederick 🙂
on April 18th, 2018 at 3:31 am
I really love Eliza with Frederick!
on April 18th, 2018 at 4:20 am
I like Eliza and Freddy – but LOVE Elizabeth June and Frederick James! I think they pair fantastically!!!
Another I though was a lovely match:
Matilda June nn Tilly or Mattie
on April 18th, 2018 at 4:35 am
I’ve just read another comment about baking your daughter October! I think it’s a wonderful idea. It is a bit more ‘out there’ and unexpected. But Toby is a lovely lovely nickname!!! I love Frederick and October and Freddy and Toby!!! Dreamy!!
on April 18th, 2018 at 5:04 am
Eliza June or Elizabeth June are stunning.
Another name that immediately came to mind for me is Clara (off the back of Clancy and Collins) but with more substance and femininity imo. Clara June would be amazing, and I like the alliteration with surname. Freddie and Clara make great sibs.
on April 18th, 2018 at 5:38 am
Susanna June would be lovely and you could consider the antique nickname for Susan/Susanna of Sukey. Sukey and Freddy.
on April 18th, 2018 at 6:23 am
I really like the name Eliza, but Eliza Doolittle’s boyfriend in Pygmalion/My Fair Lady is called Freddy, so that makes the combo seem a bit strange to me to see as siblings. I know not everyone will make the connection, but just wanted to point it out.
Because I don’t like alliteration, I would also veto any C names.
I love the suggestion of Juniper (nn Juni, Junie), which is a great way to honor grandmother (and also allows you to use another honor name in the middle spot if you wanted). Frederick and Juniper sound adorable, as do Freddy and Junie.
I like Hazel and Susanna. Also, Margot, Magnolia, Miranda, Willow, Daphne, and Sabrina.
What about Teagan? It’s not that common or overly feminine, and Teagan June is quite sweet.
Best of luck!
on April 18th, 2018 at 7:32 am
I like the suggestion of an Ann name.
Joanna, Rosanna, Sandra, Anita?
I’m not sure about a gender neutral name with Frederick (Freddy), since it is such a classic. Some unisex names would be too modern. You could go with a longer name with a boyish nickname.
Freddy can be used on girls – Winifred
Alexandra – Alex
Andrea – Andie
Alberta, Roberta – Bertie
Louisa/Louise, Louella – Lou
Georgina/Georgetta/Georgia – Georgie/George
Desiree – Desi
Desdemona – Desi or Mo
Maureen – Mo
My pick is Joanna. It’s an Ann name and has the nicknames Jo and Joey. I like Joanna June.
Abby Sandel Said
on April 18th, 2018 at 8:14 am
Oh, I love Teagan, Cordelia16!
niteowl13, those Georgie names are great, too. But I might love Gigi for Georgia names even better …
enchantrasand – How could I forget about Sukie?!
AD10 – Good thought about Josephine! I might like it even better than Margaret w/Frederick …
on April 18th, 2018 at 8:25 am
Like the previous poster, I pick Matilda June nn Tilly or Mattie.
Annabelle June nn Anna or Bella
Eloise June nn Ellie or Ella
Adelaide June nn Addie
Flora June nn Florrie
Beatrice/Beatrix June nn Bea
Rosalind June nn Rosie
Lydia June nn Liddy
Harriet June nn Harrie, Hattie
Josephine June nn Jo
Miranda June nn Andie
on April 18th, 2018 at 8:27 am
wait – cancel my suggestion of Beatrice June – I didn’t think of the initials *blushes*
on April 18th, 2018 at 8:30 am
I like the earlier suggestion of Rory, but how about as a nickname for Aurora? Frederick James & Aurora June (Freddy & Rory)? I think it’d be a nice win-win for the styles mentioned… Feminine but strong, and a spunky unisex nickname. Plus, it fits the syllable puzzle of working with the middle and last names. It seems like a very flexible choice.
on April 18th, 2018 at 8:33 am
I also love Josephine 🙂
on April 18th, 2018 at 8:44 am
An enthusiastic vote for Susanna/Susannah. Susannah June is perfection…lovely with Frederick and a great way to honor Ann and June.
Susie and Freddy are adorable. Or Sosie, Sanna, Zanna, Suzy.
on April 18th, 2018 at 9:01 am
I love all the choices! I immediately thought of a little Bella/Anna/Annie – Isabella June / Savannah June.
I also love the name Juniper Ann nn Junie.
Some suggestions are
Alexandra June nn Lexi
Alexa June nn Lexi
Alexis June nn Lexi
Adeline June nn Addie
Addison June nn Addie
Arabella June nn Bella
Ariadne June nn Aria
Avalon June nn Ava
Azalea June nn Lea
Beatrix June nn Bee
Beatrice June nn Bee
Dahlia June nn Lia
Emmeline June nn Emme
Eibhlin June nn Evie
Evelyn June nn Evie
Everly June nn Ever
Genevieve June nn Evie
Georgia June nn Georgie
Georgina June nn Georgie
Gracelyn June nn Gracie
Isadora June nn Dora
Isobel June nn Bell
Jacelyn June nn Jacey
Josephine June nn Josie
Joyce June nn Joy
Jezebel June nn Jessie
Kassandra June nn Cassie
Kaitlin June nn Kate
Liliana June nn Lili
Lillia June nn Lili
Leighton June nn Lee
Leilani June nn Annie
Lennon June nn Lenny
Livia June nn Liv
Lucia June nn Lucy
Lucille June nn Lucy
Mackenzie June nn Kenzie
Madelyn June nn Maddie
Madison June nn Maddie
Matilda June nn Tilly
Maxwell June nn Maxi
Nevaeh June nn Neve
Primrose June nn Prim/Rosie
Rachel June nn Rae/ Rach
Ramona June nn Mona
Rebecca June nn Becca
Rosa June nn Rosie
Rowan June nn Ro
Ravan June nn Ray
Tatum June nn Tate
Victoria June n Tori
Vivian June nn Viv
Vivienne June nn Viv
on April 18th, 2018 at 10:01 am
Lots of great suggestions already. My favorites are Juniper, Susannah nn Suki, Josephine nn Josie, Georgia, Matilda, and Rory. I’ll also add Roxana nn Roxi, Ramona nn Romy or Mona, and Maxine nn Max.
on April 18th, 2018 at 12:02 pm
Next to Frederick James, I’d pick another classic name with a cute nickname. These are my favorites with Frederick (Freddy):
Elizabeth June (Eliza) — the role models for my older daughter are Elizabeth Hamilton, Elizabeth, Blackwell, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, and others 🙂
Susannah June (Susie or Zuzu)
Margaret June (Margot or Maisie)
Adelaide June (Daisy)
Good luck deciding!
on April 18th, 2018 at 1:32 pm
My suggestions are names that could be nicknamed with Lilly, Elly/Ellie or Annie:
Lillianne June (nn possibilities Lilly/Lily or Annie, a nod to grandma Ann as well)
Elizabeth June (nn Eliza/Ellie)
Ellis June (nn Ellie) (since you like but can’t use Elliott)
Emilia June (nn Emma, Emmy, Ellie, Millie, Lia)
Emiliana June (nn Emma, Emmy, Ellie, Millie, Lia, Annie)
Marianne June (nn Mary, Annie, Mimi, Mamie…)
on April 18th, 2018 at 2:55 pm
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on April 18th, 2018 at 6:46 pm
So many great suggestions! I would add Dorothy or Dorothea. My favorite suggestion is Miranda, but I also really like Clara, Eliza, Thea or Theodosia, Josephine, Margaret nn Margot or Greta, and Aurora nn Rory. Good luck!
on April 19th, 2018 at 6:49 am
So many great suggestions here! I would like to add Margaux, Amalia and Louisa.
on April 19th, 2018 at 10:30 am
I ADORE the name Frederick (Freddy) and will be using that as our boys name if we’re lucky enough to have one. We already have a beautiful little girl called Olivia Grace , so my vote is for Olivia. Or in the future if we have another little girl it’ll most likely be Alexandra.
Frederick (Freddy) + Olivia
Frederick (Freddy) + Alexandra
on April 19th, 2018 at 4:46 pm
To the Sage: Whenever I hear the name Theodocia, I instantly think of the movie “For Keeps”. That’s what the teenaged Molly Ringwald named her baby girl, nn Thea. I’ve always liked the name, but I prefer the nn Docia, as in Laura’s paternal aunt from the “Little House” book series.
on April 19th, 2018 at 5:17 pm
With a stately, classic male name like Frederick, I wouldn’t use a masculine surname like Elliott or Clancy as a FN. Instead, I’d look for a more classically feminine name with a unisex or gender-bending NN (like Charlotte “Charlie”, but less common):
Ottilie “Ollie” (or Ottoline, Olive, Ophelia)
Ramona “Rory” (or Aurora, Rowena, Rosalind)
Josephine “Joss” (I also love Josie and Sosie as NNs)
on April 21st, 2018 at 10:04 am
I looove Eliza June💕
on April 21st, 2018 at 10:21 am
What about Tessa? It’s short, sweet, easy to spell and not too popular (according to the US Social security website “For 2016, the number of births with name Tessa is 1385, which represents 0.072 percent of total female births in 2016.”
on April 21st, 2018 at 5:28 pm
If you like the sounds of Francie and Clancy, maybe you’d consider Nancy as a nn for a longer Ann name? Of course, if you’re in the U.S., Nancy isn’t back yet, but I’m feeling ready to hear it!
on April 21st, 2018 at 8:00 pm
Frederick James and Sybil June! Nicknamed Freddie and Billie… love! Sybil is classic like Frederick, is becoming more familiar thanks to Downton Abbey- though still not popular- and the spunky unisex nickname Billie seems to fit your preferences perfectly.
Also love suggestion of Juniper. Freddy and June, such a sweet sibling set!
And Clancy is adorable! If she wanted a more feminine name she could always go by Lanie or Cece. But Clancy in itself is a great choice.
on April 21st, 2018 at 9:18 pm
Based on all the names you like, it’s hard to pin down your taste. They’re all so different (which is a good thing)! Here are some ideas:
Freddy and Zara
Freddy and Mabel (similar to Hazel, maybe a little less used).
Freddy and Zoe (my fave, maybe because it reminds me of Franny and Zooey)
Freddy and Sullivan
Freddy and Billie (I love this. Willa or Wilhelmina could lead to Billie as a nn).
Freddy and Leta
Freddy and Elise
Freddy and Xanthe ( Pronounced Zan-thee, in case you aren’t familiar)
on April 23rd, 2018 at 9:28 am
Frederick James has such a timeless regal sound. It’s a beautiful name. Eliza June fits that vibe perfectly, but if you don’t love it, maybe going Elizabeth June fits even better and leaves nickname options open (like Elle, Liza, Bette).
If Annie is taken, what about Anna or Annette June (or another name that works in the name Ann)? Other suggestions: Iris, Isobel, Lillian, Violet, Louisa, Grace, Ivy.
on April 23rd, 2018 at 2:13 pm
I have an Eliza and it has been a great name. Eliza June sounds pretty cool too! It was easy for her to learn how to say, spell, and write (all straight lines in caps). Good luck!
on May 5th, 2018 at 10:37 pm
Matthea June C
on May 9th, 2018 at 5:16 pm
I think from your list Eliza sounds most like a sibling for Freddy. It has the bonus of having the nick name Eli or EZ if your going for a more gender neutral vibe.
My suggestions such as they are Adair, a classic strong Scottish name that does not sound to girly. Has a benefit of having a cute nickname in Addy/Addie.
Maeve- Another Celtic name with another great nick name Mae. Maeve fits inside the different but not too different box well. Maeve June sounds beautiful.
Kitra- A Hebrew name meaning crown. Kitra is a very rare name, but it sounds very approach approachable. Kit as a nick name is also great.
Kira/Kyra- Have a lot of different orgins and meanings. Kiki as a nick name is delightful. Freddy and Kiki sound like a great sibset to me!
Congratulations and good luck!
on May 10th, 2018 at 8:41 am
on June 22nd, 2018 at 3:56 pm
I love Henrietta! Henrietta June and brother Frederick. Henri or Henry could be a nickname option.
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