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  1. #6
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    @sarahmezz Lisa Barrett's case is particularly brazen. This is a common defense when criminal charges are being brought, that the 'midwife' was actually working as a doula, not a midwife, and the mother was attempting an Unassisted Childbirth. Completely disgusting and shocking patient abandonment and frank perjury.

    @RGE, yes, she was arrested for prostitution a few times in Asheville, when she didn't have enough paying midwifery clients to foot the bills.
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    Too awful. Apparently she allowed the woman (at 42 weeks) to labor for 4 days, and advised her not to transfer to the hospital because she was uninsured. Any one of these things is reprehensible. On top of it she was practicing medicine without a license? I don't understand why CPMs are rallying around her. Doulas who assist free-births and call themselves midwives are arrogant fools, and sully the waters for legit midwives.

    Shutterbug, thanks for weighing in here. You're studying to be a direct-entry midwife? Wow, your training has been 5 years? That sounds like some serious schooling! Most nurse-midwifery trainings are 3 or 4 years, as far as I know. I'm curious about your route.

  4. #12
    I don't claim any great political savvy or insight and I don't understand all the details of this case, but if she's required to be licensed and is practicing without one, then yes, that's a major legal issue. I would infer that the mother bears some responsibility in allowing an unlicensed midwife to oversee her delivery, but again, I don't know the details there.

    This would be a different story in my state, where midwives are simply not allowed to attend births, regardless of training or certification. That I'm opposed to. While I wouldn't opt for a midwife, that's a personal choice based on my age, medical history and the fact that both my sisters experienced medical emergencies when they gave birth. But I believe that other women who don't have reason to expect a difficult delivery should be allowed the option of a certified, licensed midwife to attend their delivery.

    Edited for grammar. Oopsy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by emmabobemma View Post
    Too awful. Apparently she allowed the woman (at 42 weeks) to labor for 4 days, and advised her not to transfer to the hospital because she was uninsured. Any one of these things is reprehensible. On top of it she was practicing medicine without a license? I don't understand why CPMs are rallying around her. Doulas who assist free-births and call themselves midwives are arrogant fools, and sully the waters for legit midwives.

    Shutterbug, thanks for weighing in here. You're studying to be a direct-entry midwife? Wow, your training has been 5 years? That sounds like some serious schooling! Most nurse-midwifery trainings are 3 or 4 years, as far as I know. I'm curious about your route.
    @emms I would bet shutterbug is part of the program at Bastyr University on the outskirts of Seattle. They are leading an experiment in making DEM rigorous, requiring college degrees for entry, 2 years of foundational study plus three years of practica, etc. It's grounded in a naturopathic model of medical care as that's Bastyr's thing.
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