How important are name meanings to you?
by rachelmarie on Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:07 am
I remember on another website I asked a question about the name Kennedy. Somebody said they didn't like it because it meant "misshapen head."
But do meanings really matter that much? A few of my favorite names have meanings that have to do with God (such as Eliza, "pledged to God" and Christopher, "Christ bearer"), but I don't associate myself with any religion/religious beliefs. Would that be weird to use those names, even though I completely disagree with the meanings?
Are meanings even that important? I'd just like to hear everyone's opinion on this matter. Thanks :)
Re: How important are name meanings to you?
by amaryllis on Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:31 am
I know for many people the meanings of names aren't important at all. In fact, I don't think that the majority of people even know what their names mean (outside of communities like this one!:) ).
For me, however, my mom really took the meanings of names seriously, and I grew up knowing the meanings of my names. It has really helped shape my identity and given me a sense of self. I am doing the same for my children.
That said, I think that it entirely depends on your view of the name meanings, and the meanings could be different for you than what the "traditional" meanings are. If you are naming a child after someone special, for instance, the meaning of the name is personal and holds traits of the person honored. Even if you do not agree with the "traditional" meaning of a name, you can let your children know why the names were important enough to you to give it to them.
Re: How important are name meanings to you?
by karen on Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:42 am
They matter to me a moderate amount. Like you, I'm not religious, but I like a few classic names that also happen to be biblical. Where I start not to like a biblical name so much is when it seems far more biblical than general usage, not it's meaning. This is to say, I'm ok with a common name like Daniel, but pulling names out from deep in the bible comes off to me like an endorsement of the book or an undeniable reference to some part of it that might seem like it's a statement of some importance to me. I don't hate the names (depends on what it sounds like) but I'm unlikely to choose a name that "means" overtly that religion is significant to me, even names like Noah and Elijah which have become popular.
That also includes (for me) pretty names like Grace, Faith, and Evangeline, although Angela is ok (ish), as well as Kirsten, which is a form of Christine. I am not sure how I arrived at this - it is some associations I have with the names, and still not their meanings. The weight of the words has something to do with the vibe I get. An arbitrary assessment on the religiousness of some names vs. others that seem more accessible and not "owned" by their meanings that would otherwise deter me.
In other subtopics, a meaning can put me off, like they say Claudia means "lame," which is not a very nice meaning, but I love Claudia, and the meaning wouldn't really affect me if it was my favorite name. It might be enough of a turn-off to me to settle with a name that is nice and also has a good meaning if I had some trouble deciding. A good meaning doesn't help me like a name I don't like better, either. I also don't like meanings with physical attributes, it's sort of arbitrary, but I am tall, fair, and blonde, so I am unlikely to choose a name for a biological child of mine that means little or dark, whereas I don't really have a problem with a name that means lame or deformed head.
I don't know, deformed head is kind of harsh. I already like the name Claudia, so it's sort of easier for me to say that the meaning wouldn't bother me, but I'm not sure I would go with Kennedy, so I'm glad it's not really one that I would have on the list. I'm 90% confident that the meaning wouldn't bother me if I loved the name.
Re: How important are name meanings to you?
by susan on Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:56 am
I love name meanings. It would be difficult to get really excited about a name if I didn't love its meaning. I love names that have to do with animals, plants, geological features, outer space, and God the most. My son's name means rock and my daughter's name means bay laurel.
Re: How important are name meanings to you?
by elea on Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:20 am
It's a bit of both for me.
I wouldn't let the meaning of a name (re. religious meaning) bother me if a name has lots of significant historical (or familial) usage. Sometimes names have meanings for you beyond their literal meaning.
However, there are some really beautiful names where the meanings put me off a bit from using them personally:
Cecilia (blind)
Claudia (lame)
Isla (essentially "big-bottomed")
Portia (pig)
Re: How important are name meanings to you?
by twinkle on Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:25 am
In our generally secular world, I think many less-obviously religious names have lost that connotation, and I wouldn't find it at all unusual if someone other than a regular church-goer named their child Eliza or Christopher (which are both lovely). In fact, I know more than one Gabriella who was born to completely unreligious parents, and that association is much more obvious.
Name meanings to me are a really a bonus. If I like the sound of the name, it having a bad meaning would not deter me, so long as the meaning was not obvious to me (for example, I dislike the name Dolores, which means suffering - although I don't like the sound anyway. As I speak Spanish, the connection to dolor would be too obvious to me to name my daughter that.)
Re: How important are name meanings to you?
by nephele on Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:31 am
Name meanings (i.e. etymological definitions) are one thing, but the significance of a name can be quite another thing. For example, Karen mentioned how much she likes the name Claudia, but she didn't care for its meaning of "lame."
But the significance of Claudia is that it is a feminine name derived from the gens name of one of the most powerful patrician families of ancient republican Rome -- the Claudii being second only to the Cornelii in terms of having produced the most magistrates to govern the Roman Republic. Therefore, the girl's name of Claudia (and Cornelia, too) signifies power, authority, and hereditary nobility.
On the other hand, the name Adolf has a proud meaning of "noble wolf" -- but this poor name has been forever tainted by having been the name of one of the most recognizable monsters of history. So the significance of this name is now unpleasant for many people today.
The significance (the expressed or implied meaning) of a name can either redeem a name with an otherwise undesirable etymological definition, or forever ruin a name with a desirable etymological definition.
So to answer your question... I find the expressed or implied meaning of names to be more important than their literal (and, in many cases, disused) etymological definitions.
-- Nephele
Re: How important are name meanings to you?
by twinkle on Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:32 am
As always, Nephele makes a brilliant point!
Re: How important are name meanings to you?
by deirdre on Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:07 pm
Just to respond to the names Christopher and Eliza ... I would not know what either of those names meant off the top of my head. But that being said, even without knowing the meaning of Christopher, I see it as a very Christian name. It's obvious (at least to me) that it has something to do with Christ. Thus, I would find it a little strange if a Buddhist, Hindu, atheist, etc chose that name for his/her child. On the other hand, I would not easily or automatically think that Eliza had a religious or Christian meaning. So I guess my point is that some names do make their meanings a little bit more obvious up front, and that is true of Christopher. In the case of these names, I would want to be sure I liked the meaning if I chose it.
Re: How important are name meanings to you?
by mayflower on Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:22 pm
I think that if I absolutely loved a name, or it was the only name that me and SO agreed on, then I would use it no matter what the meaning of the name is. However, if I was on the fence with a name, and I found out the meaning of the name was something that I didn't care for, didn't agree with, etc., then it would affect my decision on whether or not I used the name.