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February 11th, 2014 10:27 AM #6Member
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Hmmm... It's not actually a kre8tiv spelling as it dates from the 12th century in Cornwall but the fact that you think it is speaks volumes Lawsonhaley! Thanks for your feedback Ashthedreamer - really helpful and nicely put. Cornish names are increasingly common but there are many that I wouldn't use, particularly for girls, as they involve lots of 'k' and 'z' parts which could give a similar impression. I'm not so worried about people thinking we're chavvy but more about how complicated the whole thing could get so maybe sticking to Vivian is a better option. My husband will be pretty upset I think but I have explained to him a couple of times now that when his great grandparents gave his (maternal) grandmother Vyvyan she wasn't competing with the Scottish/Italian double-barrelled surname as well, but a phonetic single surname.
Now, if I had my druthers it'd be Vivien rather than Vivian but that may be a step too far for the old boy to deal with...
February 11th, 2014 10:59 AM #8
Vyvyan as chavvy, as well. Hmm.
February 11th, 2014 11:05 AM #10Senior Member
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I usually would tell people to go with their hearts, but I think I'd listen to your head with this one. Vivian does still honor your grandmother, but will make life quite a bit easier for your little one. Although you know that your origins of Vyvyan are legit, if you go with it you (and your daughter) will have to develop a thick skin against people assuming you were being creative.
I also find Vyvyan hard to read. The Vyvy sequence is hard on the eyes and it's hard to tell which one is a V and which one is a y, and the spelling also makes me wonder if I'm supposed to pronounce it more like VIVE-yan (rhymes with FIVE-man) or VIV-yan.
I do hope that if you go with Vivian your husband isn't too let-down. It still is a lovely tribute to his grandmother. If you go with Vyvyan, just practice either not caring what people think, or develop a quick explanation, eg: "It's spelled Vyvyan. That's a Cornish spelling, and was her great-grandmother's name."Girls:
Nickname-able: Susanna, Johanna, Paloma, Lucille, Harriet, Beatrix, Rosemary, Juniper, Marigold, Annabeth, Gwendolen, Kathleen, Tabitha
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February 11th, 2014 11:06 AM #12
Some people can be so harsh! I don't usually like the new spellings and alterations made to names but as mentioned, if it is a proper variant and one from another culture I think it might work. If you can get past the worrying about the spelling and judgement I think you'll come to the right decision about the name..also I think Vyv is just as cute as Viv. If Vyvyan honours the little one's grandmother's name and you like it, I say go for it. I have an uncommon name and an unpronounceable last name unless I am surrounded by Scots lol but it was never really an issue, I just got used to spelling out my name. I know it's unimaginable for some but it was honestly not that big a deal for me growing up so I don't imagine little Vyv will have a huge issue with it either. I like it and hope you choose the perfect nameCurrent Name Crushes;Girls:Arya Sky, Ayla Elise, Zahra Rosalie, Elodie Grace, Adelaide Ruby, Amelie Hera, Saphira Hope, Sadie Felice, Norah Celene, Leora AnnelieseBoys:Zephaniah, Soren, Cohen, Landon, Elijah, Malakai, Seth, Reuben, Ezekiel, Zane
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February 11th, 2014 11:13 AM #14
I have to agree with the majority of posters and say to stick with Vivian! Vivien would be pretty too.
Also, I think the best way to honor a family member by naming a child is to use a name that is slightly different from the family member. For example, if I were to name my daughter Isla, after my great-grandmother Ila Mae, I would use Isla as the spelling. It still honors a family member, but gives the child their own spin on the family name, and gives them a little more individuality. Just a thought!18 | Name lover | No babies, just planning.
Callen Archer is our boy name, Emmeline Sage is our girl name.
Fingers crossed that one day he'll agree to Holden, Beckett, Violet, and Maven.