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November 12th, 2013 10:40 AM #71Senior Member
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I confess I haven't read the whole string, and I usually appreciate a thoughtful discussion, but this one seems like a bit of much ado about nothing. I am a lawyer, named Mindy, and I work with a woman who's sons are named Randsom and Gunner. Seriously. Our last presidential election was between Barack and Mitt. My Logan is a boy and is 19 years old and now we meet 5 year old girl Logans all the time. We call my youngest "Birdie Mae" and she will either pull that off as she ages or decide to go with her given name, Arden. The only one of my kids with a "frilly" name is Avonlea and she is a straight A, honors student, travel-level athlete that spends way too long flat ironing her hair in the morning and I have no concerns about her name holding her back. She loves it. It was just right for her.
And playing down femininity as though it is not as strong and valuable as masculinity is NOT feminism. My girls are feminine and I wouldn't have them any other way. Arden is a more masculine name and it's the only one that I don't feel is a great fit because she is going to be quite a woman. Smart, beautiful, divalicious - a force to be reckoned with! Neither of my boys would have twirled through a meadow (unless they were chasing something), and 3 of my girls love to!
Names are the first gift we give our children, they are based on feelings and preferences and hopefully given with love, whatever the outcome. There are sub-cultures everywhere, and I believe that many people who name their daughter Princess or their son King don't have the dream that their child will someday be a lawyer, like someone who would name a daughter Elizabeth or a son Henry might have. Some individuals break the mold and jump onto a totally different path than their parents (and the rest of their culture) expected, and no name is going to stop those people.
The creative spellings are another story. Maybe if we stop glorifying the teenage pregnancy with television shows, etc we wouldn't have so many - youth is the one culture we truly grow out of! No offense meant to the young on here or teenage moms - I had my first at 19 and there are many thoughtful, young name-nerds on this forum. But I remember wanting to spell my name Myndi for awhile...
Last edited by mjc7709; November 12th, 2013 at 10:48 AM. Reason: grammarLuckiest woman in the world!
Mom to Logan Hunter, Savanna Nichole, Avonlea Noel and Arden "Birdie" Mae
Step-mom to Austin Ray, Haley Caroline, Kelsey Suzanne
and expecting someone else December 19!
November 12th, 2013 10:41 AM #73eighteen and dreaming of little darlings.
Elsie, Eleanor, Imogen, Freya, Polly, Phoebe, Amy, Evie, Maude,
Kate, Beatrice, Florence, Violet, Lillian, Isabelle, Evelyn, Clara, Ottilie, Martha, Lucy
Louis, Ernest, Archie, Arthur, Henry, Gregory, Edward, Walter, Matthew,
Theodore, George, Thomas, Harry, Lachlan, Dexter, Alfie, Liam, Christopher, Emmett, Lawrence
November 12th, 2013 10:47 AM #75Senior Member
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Critical thinking, yes....
But saying women like unique names because they are women and that men don't want a unique name, but instead a "stronger" name and that is how it SHOULD be is extremely reductive and hardly stellar critical thinking.
And what is a "strong" name anyway? We could probably come up with a list of classic names (both the well accepted ones and the more nerdy/debatable ones), but consider these top 100 boys' names from the 1880's:
I doubt many of us would rush to identify these as strong male names and yet they were popular then. Obviously our notions of strong names for either gender change over the years. I would love to hear interviews with the men given these Elmer-Floyd names to see if their names were seen as manly or caused them suffering or if manhood was taken for granted and the name choices mattered less.
November 12th, 2013 10:56 AM #77Senior Member
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(Though I do believe in emphasizing civility, of course).TTCWhy yes, I probably should be working!
Benjamin * Sebastian * Ezra * Edmund * Henry * Hugo * Cormac * Andrew * Winston * Levi * Zev * Theodore
Arabella * Aviva * Ariella * Maeve * Matilda * Eleanor * Catherine * Charlotte * Beatrice
November 12th, 2013 11:07 AM #79Personal Favorites: Mira Cairdeas and Darrow Paine
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