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Thread: Caspar vs Caspian
August 23rd, 2013 12:28 AM #6Member
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August 23rd, 2013 02:24 AM #10
I like both equally.
Caspar is very traditional and though the thought of the ghost does come up... I think it is a good association to have in childhood as he is a loving friendly kind person.
Caspian whilst literary and geographic, I agree is very trendy.
In all honestly, I'd rather have the Caspar association (and yes I did read all 7 Narnia books in childhood as I had the complete collection)
Last edited by giinkies; August 23rd, 2013 at 02:25 AM. Reason: spelling errorI like distinct, memorable, exotic and preferably non-popular names. The kids with unique names wore them so well when I was younger and never got lost in the crowd.
August 23rd, 2013 12:02 PM #12
Caspian was brought into use as a first name by C.S. Lewis, so no, it's not going to have historical cred: it's a literary name that was first used only half a century ago. I have a son named Caspian, and we named him because of the book (not the movies, pet peeve that they botched his character so badly in those, but I digress). I wasn't looking for historic use, I was looking at the "Prince Caspian" story. Even so, can Caspian be accurately labeled a "trendy" name, or are we actually seeing a (RARE!) addition of a name to the bank of acceptable options? Clearly, it fits in with with the ever-popular ends-in-an boys names -- classics Nathan and Jonathan, as well as mega-popular Ethan, Mason, Aidan, et. al., so it "feels" established, and yet it's new. The Nameberry chart looks scary but we're really only talking about 50 kids getting the name every year (compare to Ethan at 17,547), and since it really was only brought to the table as an option by Lewis, you can't expect to see a long history of use. Again -- flash in the pan or legit new addition to the list of options? This remains to be seen. My personal experience over the last several years has been that my son gets tons of compliments, and his name is widely accepted and admired...and yet hardly anybody uses it.
It's true that Caspar has historic use, sparsely, and throughout time, never being particularly popular. If this is a priority for you, then Caspar has a clear edge. Casper the Ghost is a pretty inescapable cultural connection though, and you can almost count on old shows/movies being rebooted for a new generation every several years. It has been awhile since a Casper remake, so it's possibly that it's now time? It's something to consider realistically. But is Caspar really just the "historic" name, or is it also part of a different trend that's still flying under the radar? Don't forget about ends-in-er classics Alexander and Christopher near the top of the Social Security list, along with Carter, Hunter, Tyler, Connor, Oliver, Parker, Xavier, Cooper, and Ryder all in the Top 100. Plus up-and-coming Asher, Jasper and Ryker hovering around just under the Top 100. Is -er a new thing waiting in the wings?
The Social Security data on Casper/Caspar and Caspian is really interesting. Over the past five years shows both have shown growth at a similar rate:
Casper: 49 and spelling Caspar does not appear on the list at all
On the other hand, you do see use of Casper (usually only this spelling) in 1990 at 31, 1980 at 14, 1970 at 7, 1960 at 27, and 1950 at 21. Again... Caspian was only brought to the table in the 1950's to begin with. The name Vanessa was invented by author Jonathan Swift and it first appeared in print in 1726. Last year it was #122 on the charts, and yet its first appearance in Social Security was in 1900.
So there's a lot of interesting stuff going on here. Honestly, I wouldn't judge a name solely on a surface view of historic use without considering how recently the name was brought into public consideration, how quickly it's growing, and comparative style to other names popular at the moment. Honestly, if *I* were choosing, and solely looking at the names stylistically, in 2013 I would pick Caspar. But the reason I would choose Caspar might not be the reason you think: I like to be ahead of trends. I think the ends-in-AN thing has reached its expiration date, and for all the publicity the "ends in O" names are getting I think they are the flash in the pan. I see ends-in-R names as most likely to become the "next big thing," so I'd put my bet on that and go with Caspar now. In my opinion, an ends-in-O name would be the trendy choice this year, and an ends-in-N name would be the safe and acceptable choice.
August 23rd, 2013 12:15 PM #14
My boss' name is Casper (with an -er) and my husband's best friend has the surnamed Kasper. Although the initial thought is always "the friendly ghost," both men have very much made the name distinctly theirs and the association is long since forgotten. I'd say go with Caspar because it's fresh and bold, and likely will become more commonly known as a name than a ghost moving forward.Wilde West
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