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Thread: Private vs Public Schooling
April 27th, 2013 05:40 PM #21Senior Member
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I was Co-ed educated the whole way - wouldn't change it - you need a mix in classes personally speaking, i think it stretches a child more and prepares them for life.
Went to a private international school for two years abroad, then returned to UK and went to a small village primary school and a larger state high school.
International school is amazing, full of a diverse range of people and caring teachers anyway.... not generally a choice, unless you live in a major city.
personally will try and send my kids to the biggest school possible, most primary schools in the UK have 1 class per year, teachers stay at the same school forever, clichey, no way of avoiding teachers etc. NMS, but there isn't much way of avoiding it in the UK, as private schools tend to be smaller.... However, I did really enjoy my time at a small school for the most part.
Will definitely look into Montessori, Waldorf etc style schools.
For high school, if I can afford it I will definitely look into private, at least for the last few years, or at least a specialised sixth form college (for 17-18 year olds) as I believe the prep is far better for university, as the oldest child going through a state school to university, with parents who were unsure of the system as I, it was a hopeless disaster. The school did not push me, or allow me to reach my full potential. Which is a shame. But I wouldn't change where I am now.
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April 27th, 2013 06:31 PM #23
I meant to say, that I would never even consider sending any child of mine to a private school. I believe that education should be free and available worldwide to all. And I think that supporting paid education is purely contradictory to that belief.
If I had the money, I'd rather use it to pay for children abroad who can't otherwise afford any form of education, than on my own child who by law will be *required* to go to school, fully funded.
The least socially and emotionally capable people I know are all in/have been in private education. Obviously this is not representative of all privately educated people - but even stereotypes do tend to be based on actuality.
A very high percentage of my primary were either from lower-income or 1st generation immigrant families (ie. poor or non-English speaking) and there was a huge level of tolerance and kindness, which is something I feel that privately educated children are not exposed to enough. There were parts of the school week dedicated to Arabic, Pakistani, Polish, Nigerian, especially for non-English speaking children. I was never afraid of the 15 minute walk through the council estate on the way home, like my parents' friends thought I should have been. After all, 'those people' are all 'thugs and murders', are they not?
I just don't think that it's healthy for children to be only exposed to a certain type of people ie. upper class and white-British. That's not the real world, and young, easily influenced children shouldn't be taught that it is.
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April 27th, 2013 07:07 PM #25
In high school there was one girl of Indian origin, one mixed raced boy and everyone else was white (either middle class or working class.)
I think what I'm trying to say is that in some cases, even in non private schools, mixing solely with people of the same race/socio economic background to you can be - sadly - unavoidable. And despite this, I've definitely not grown up with a lack of kindness or tolerance towards others
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April 27th, 2013 11:16 PM #27
Okay, I'm on my computer now and ready to contribute! As I said in an earlier post, I'm a teacher and have taught at various schools in Australia (both private and public; single sex (girls) and co-ed). I think private schools are better. Plain and simple. That's not to say there aren't good public schools out there (of course there are). I've taught in (what's considered to be) the best public high school in Adelaide, but, in my experience, private schools are better. Even the best public school in the city was lacking in many areas. Of course, a driven and talented child will excel no matter which school they attend, but I think private schools have a lot more to offer than just academics (although their approach to academics is generally more focused than public schools). Somebody posted that there's no point spending lots of money on private education because students can get the same education for free (or very little cost) at the local public school. I don't think it's the same education at all. Attending a good private school is an amazing life experience. It's a community that students will be part of for the rest of their lives, long after they've finished high school. In my mind, what separates schools is the atmosphere and ethos of the school. This is, of course, almost impossible to quantify. Sometimes the most elite private schools are not as good as other private schools. As a parent, I'm sure it's hard to judge, especially when you're basing your decision on a brief tour of the school and an interview with the principal.
Okay, now onto girls schools! I've taught at two, one of which was considered the best girls school in the city. This school was amazing. Seriously, it's the best school I've ever taught at. The girls were remarkable. Seriously, I cannot speak too highly of this school! Oh, don't worry, it costs to send your daughter there ($20,000 per year)! Unfortunately, my daughters will never attend such an expensive school, but I completely understand why parents who can afford the fees would send their daughters there. The atmosphere and education was second to none. The environment was fantastic for the girls, especially the shyer ones. There have been studies showing that girls do better academically at single sex schools (see link below). Also, I don't think girls who attend single sex schools are being denied a "real world" education. They still interact with boys (most single sex schools have brother/sister schools) and in their lives outside of school (hobbies, part time jobs, etc). They have plently of male role models - male teachers, fathers, brothers, cousins, friends, etc. Likewise, I don't think sending your child to a public school makes them more ready for the real world and a private school makes them less ready. Personally, I attended private schools throughout my schooling and was as prepared as anyone else for university and the real world.
Okay, that's it! Sorry, I'm probably taking this thread a little too seriously, but this is a subject that matters to me! I feel like, as a teacher, I have a good perspective on this issue. Anyway...
Here's a link to an article about girls performing better in single sex schools. It's an article from a British newspaper. Couldn't be bothered finding an Australian version or a link to a study, but I'm sure they're out there!:
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April 27th, 2013 11:51 PM #29Senior Member
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Thank you all very much for your responses/opinions!
@sarahmezz Thank you for an up to date view of Australian schools. I don't live in Adelaide, but I'm sure the consensus for all of Australia would be fairly similar.
@chicamerlin Thanks for the positive outlook towards Private School kids! I was one and I don't feel as if I lack knowledge about the real world. But inner-city kids paint a slightly different image for me...maybe I'm wrong but the few that I have come across seem to think that the world owes them something. Your comments are very helpful though!
I think Australian Schools are quite different to schools in the UK and US. But your experiences at both are helpful nonetheless. The opinions on the pros and cons of both Public and Private have given me something to think about. We live in a fairly high-socioeconomic area, but I really don't want my children growing up thinking less of people who are less fortunate, balance is good for kids. The kids at my school were mostly easy-going country kids, yes most of us did come from fairly wealthy farming families but we all understood the concept of hard work, dedication and being self-sufficient, qualities that I am desperate to instill in my children!
I guess we have 3 years before Bugsy starts school but the choice still makes me uneasy!
Hmmm... I have a month off before my baby comes so I might just go and look at some schools. I think getting the "feel" for different schools is the only way for me to truly decide.
Thanks again, keep it coming! I find this topic quite an interesting point of discussion.
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