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April 17th, 2013 02:55 PM #106Member
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I am just jaw-droppingly appalled by this entire thread. I remember when Beyond Jennifer and Jason came out, what was so refreshing was how Pam and Linda really told readers about the significance of names; their style, their image, their social mobility. It was the most amazing thing I'd ever read. If forum participants just want to know the meaning and origin of a name, there are a bazillion other sites out there.
Further more, I can't believe some posters' audacity in dictating to Pam and Linda what they need to change in their content. Stanley is unreasonable and ridiculous for a girl? Tell it to Barack Obama-- that's his mother's name. Don't get me wrong-- you are entitled to your opinions (and you seem to think I'm entitled to mine as long as they jibe with yours), but Nameberry is Pam and Linda's brand. It's their opinion I'm interested in. You think you're more of an expert? Go build your brand. Don't impose your ideas on theirs.
I've been on this forum off-and-on since the way-back days when Lola and Susan were the resident experts. I came back a few months ago and absolutely cannot believe how contentious and self-righteous many of the posters are. This used to be a fun place where folks played around with names, but now it's gotten weird and politically-charged and, quite frankly, full of bossy prigs. Where is the joy in this community? Cause I ain't seein' it.
April 17th, 2013 03:27 PM #108
I'm appalled that there's so much defense for homophobic commentary. Would you also defend racism in the database?
ETA: I think Pam and Linda are doing a great thing by altering the commentary for entires such as Lance's earlier one. I'm not saying, "Praise every name" or anything; I realize the commentary is their own and that the database is not actually a base for actual data most of the time, but I can't think of a time of place where calling anything or anyone "limp-wristed" is appropriate. Homophobia is not refreshing, and I'm glad Pam & Linda have stepped up and changed some of the commentary.
ETA again: I also want to say that I do LOVE these forums. I think they're a great help and a lot of fun, and that's why I participate here.
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April 17th, 2013 06:04 PM #110Senior Member
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And I suppose if they want to KEEP readers and posters interested in their work, they should move with the times and realize things like homophobia are NOT cool and if they don't want to change it - fine, it's their site, but don't expect to keep good press when it gets out that you are spewing homophobic BS. As to the masculine /feminine thing - I personally don't care about that bit, but I DO think it's more than a little backwards (and VERY FAR from refreshing or insightful) to say that a perfectly good masculine name should be off limits to boys just because a few girls share the name.
That being said - if someone comes on here and takes Pam and Linda's word about a name - it's style, image, or social mobility - at face value then they need to re-think some things about themselves because NO ONE should tell you your own opinion on something as important as what you choose to name your child. Just because they decided that something is outdated does not mean everyone views it that way or that it is a "fact".
April 17th, 2013 07:08 PM #112
Yes, let's all get with the times and base our opinions on public consensus. How dare anyone call Fauntleroy a sissy name?
Give me a break. I'm over the whole speech police thing. If you find something so homophobic or racist - and btw these are usually buzzwords meant to shut down debate, since people are scared to be called a homophobe or racist - then don't come to the site. Forcing people to conform to the general consensus and express themselves "correctly" is Orwellian and disgusting.
I'm surprised by how much politics finds its way onto the boards in general. I've already had to read far too many posts about transgender youths and how gross the Bushes are for a freakin' baby name forum.
Pam and Linda are fixing the comments - fine. You won. But when people express why they weren't offended by the original comments, many of you are actually offended that we weren't offended?! LOL. Wow.
I wasn't offended. I feel fine about not being offended. If that makes me a racist homophobic racist homophobe, cool.
April 17th, 2013 07:10 PM #114