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  1. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by augusta_lee View Post
    I love everything you've said here, and completely agree. Personally I think Eden is totally unisex and would be excited to see it on a boy. Looking at my own list, the only really unisex choices are Marlowe, River, and Saylor -- even Juniper skews female. I would love to see a list of truly unisex choices, not just boys' names on girls but names altogether without a history of gender-specific use. As someone who tends to go for names with historical and literary associations, however, I'm not sure I would actually like any of the names on such a list; I think they would, by necessity, be modern invented names, or nature names (which, admittedly, I actually quite like).
    Thank you, and I'm glad to see someone else agree.

    Most truly unisex names do tend to be nature names...which kind of bother me. Why are nature names viewed as unisex? Is it because it's gender-less? If so, would Lily on a boy be acceptable? Or no because it's a flower?
    What about Fawn then? Which is a young deer, and a colour (according to wikipedia at least)?
    What about Briar, Garland and Fern?

    I think I'm going to compile a list of names that should be considered truly unisex, and equally appropriate for use on boys and girls.
    Laurel - 21 - Aries - Slytherin - University of Toronto





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    Quote Originally Posted by egilona View Post
    Even leaving aside the fact that I often find nameberry's name descriptions to be far too subjectively worded and sanctimoniously delivered, re: Antoine's entry: ugh. It's a similar story for Dorian - it's decried as "somewhat feminine" in the male entry (also apparently its popularity has taken a "nosedive"), while the female entry calls Dorian "attractive" (for a girl) and claims it "crossed the lake into the girls' camp several years ago". This latter statement is particularly bizarre, since Dorian has never ranked for girls, and last I checked, on average, there were something like 400-500 more male than female Dorians born per year. It bums me out that some real parents might be scared out of using perfectly legitimate names because some capricious and biased soul on nameberry described a name as "too feminine" (or "unstylish," or whatever).



    I feel like this could be a thread unto itself. (Has it been in the past?) I've been trawling through the database, looking to see if there were any particularly egregious entries also relevant to this thread. Apparently nameberry advocates gender-swapping Ira, and Hollis has "gone to the girls"...even though in 2011 the ratio was 5:2 in favor of the boys.
    I remember complaining on a thread about updates to the database that a boys' name was described as "sissified"...I can't for the life of me remember what it was, though!

    Matilda Sailor or Faye Matilda | Sylvie Winifred or Simon Atlas | Atlas Dov or Alice Violetta | Lucien Wilde or Lucinda Jane | Jane Lucinda or Jack Mariner | Marlowe Charles or Roscoe Thomas | Charles ' Charlie' Wallace or Marigold 'Maggie' Wynn | Eloise Lily or Elliot Darwin | Iris Cordelia or Thea Marina | Jasper Augustus or Juniper 'June' Lovelace | Julian Felix or Judah 'Jude' Reeve

    Just a grad student dreaming ahead...

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    Boys are named girl names these days. 26 boys in 2011 will have to go through the pain of having to answer to Isabella.

    But I do think that word names, such as Juniper or Phoenix or Gray, don't have a specific gender. Of course, I do have preferences on their genders, but in reality River technically isn't tied to either gender. Same with place names, like Jordan or London, but not the ones that are traditionally male (i.e. Paris).
    ~lucy reine~
    ~ celestine eira ~ mary simona ~ elizabeth echo "ellie" ~ eleanor maeve "lena" ~ vivienne isla ~ celia matilda "cici" ~ catherine aiko "rin" ~ elsa verity ~
    ~ jasper red ~ evander lachlan 'evan'~ kai nicholas ~ ezra link ~ avery thomas ~ michael satoshi "mischa" ~ finn jeremias ~ ezekiel hayden ~ alexander rowan "sacha" ~
    guilty pleasures
    ~ tisiphone aria ~ alecto elpis ~ miya lucida ~ addison matteo ~ corinthian tidus ~

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    Quote Originally Posted by egilona View Post
    Even leaving aside the fact that I often find nameberry's name descriptions to be far too subjectively worded and sanctimoniously delivered, re: Antoine's entry: ugh. It's a similar story for Dorian - it's decried as "somewhat feminine" in the male entry (also apparently its popularity has taken a "nosedive"), while the female entry calls Dorian "attractive" (for a girl) and claims it "crossed the lake into the girls' camp several years ago". This latter statement is particularly bizarre, since Dorian has never ranked for girls, and last I checked, on average, there were something like 400-500 more male than female Dorians born per year. It bums me out that some real parents might be scared out of using perfectly legitimate names because some capricious and biased soul on nameberry described a name as "too feminine" (or "unstylish," or whatever).



    I feel like this could be a thread unto itself. (Has it been in the past?) I've been trawling through the database, looking to see if there were any particularly egregious entries also relevant to this thread. Apparently nameberry advocates gender-swapping Ira, and Hollis has "gone to the girls"...even though in 2011 the ratio was 5:2 in favor of the boys.
    I think I am going to start a thread on that, because it's something I've noticed for a long time and has been quite irking to me.

    I've noticed the boy-to-girl swapping a lot myself. (It's not gender-swapping to me, because it's not even) I wondered why some names that are clearly boy favouring are often praised for girls, then I realised a possible reason when I saw the names of the nameberry creators. It's a personal taste thing.
    A lot of things relating to names are personal opinion driven, rather than fact or even general consensus.
    Laurel - 21 - Aries - Slytherin - University of Toronto





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    Quote Originally Posted by augusta_lee View Post
    "I don't think saying one thing is more feared/oppressed than another means the second thing isn't also feared/oppressed."

    'More' is a term of measurement, thus implying that oppression is a measurable quality -- and that the "one thing" (gay men) is more oppressed than the "second thing".
    Hmm... That line was in a separate post, I hadn't read that yet.
    Laurel - 21 - Aries - Slytherin - University of Toronto





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