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April 11th, 2013 07:51 AM #111
April 11th, 2013 08:12 AM #113Senior Member
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April 11th, 2013 08:56 AM #115
Ashley here. No one will bat an eyelid~Boys~
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Sorry to anyone who read TSI. First draft was terrible. Second drafting now.
April 11th, 2013 12:24 PM #117
I also did not have time to read all (now 12 pages) of responses, but I found it quite interesting. I teach anthropology, English, and U.S. History at a university in China (although I'm trained as an anthropologist). I just got home from having a long conversation with 2 female students: Rakey and James. I was giving them a lesson on names in Western culture, so they'd understand why randomly creating a name (Rakey) or choosing a male name (James) could hurt you in the business world. I have first-hand experience with female bearers of male names (not unisex names) being mocked at career day at my alma mater. Should you (or your daughter) excel to the top, this can be a stumbling block, as some associate it with lower socioeconomic statuses. However, this may change... who knows...
But the lesson took a more relevant turn: Here in China, girls are also taking over male names because of the One Child Policy. In the past, girls names tended to emphasize grace, beauty, nature, etc. Masculine names emphasized success of all kinds, riches, perseverance, moral uprightness, and other inborn qualities. Now you meet more girls with masculine names (such as my friend, Miao Xin... Xin has 3 golds and means "riches/ wealth"), because the family lacks a son. In some ways, perhaps it signals that men and women are becoming more equal. However, there still remains the barrier that men extremely rarely have a feminine character (I've only met 2, and in 1 case it was the result of a typo when the government was issuing his I.D. card, which is nearly impossible to fix). My students expressed that maybe, in a way, giving girls a boy's name is a way of upgrading them to a son's status and role.
So fast forward to this conversation. Perhaps I've spent much to long in China, but whenever I hear of people naming their daughters Hunter, Kyle, AddiSON, MadiSON, JackSON, Josiah, Corey, Cody, James, Michael, etc. I do think, "Hmmm... seems like they wanted a son." Now, I know that's not the case... but it is a symbolic gesture, as this article says. It's no different from letting your daughters play with cars, balls, toy guns, etc., but telling your sons not to play with dolls or that "Men don't cry." You are allowing women to take on male roles, but denying males the opportunity to take on female roles. To those who think their choices are isolated from cultural trends and influences... then why aren't you naming your daughter Eunice and your son Aloysius? Cultural trends. None of us are isolated from their influence...INTJ Anthropologist Living in the centre of China, married to a Persian, and just enjoying a completely unpredictable life
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April 11th, 2013 01:28 PM #119
Logan for a girl, not because I think it would give my daughter a leg up in society or because I think masculine qualities are better, etc. Because I like the name.
Madison, and although it may not seem that weird because of the "son" ending, just remember that most people aren't name nerds with an appreciation for history and all that when it come to names. So, most people meet him thinking he has a girly name. He just calmly explains to people that Madison was traditionally a name for boys and his mom liked it. He's gotten teased before, but he's a tough kid and doesn't let it faze him. Teasing will most likely occur with Ashley, or hey, maybe by then the lines will be so blurred with names there might be a few male Ashleys in his class.“A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies. The man who never reads lives only one.”
-George R.R. Martin
alyssa ϟ twenty-one ϟ usa ϟ name lover
If I ever have a baby, I would name him or her:
Charlotte Matilda |Augustus Henry
Anastasia Louise, Clara Penelope, Amelia Caitlin / Aiden James, Jase Alexander, Renly Isaac