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March 2nd, 2013 07:00 PM #31
GISELLE WILL GET TEASED BECAUSE THE FIRST SYLLABLE SOUNDS LIKE JIZZ". Being concerned for a child named Lucifer is something that I'm sure most people would understand. Just because people haven't said its terrible to the parents face (and honestly, who would? That's pointless) doesn't mean people like it or even think it's okay. I'm not trying to "find" an argument for bashing. If you're going to say things implying the posters in this thread "don't know how to read" then you should just be upfront about it instead of being passive aggressive. It does nothing for the discussion.marian| louisa | vivian
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March 2nd, 2013 07:56 PM #33Senior Member
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Immanuel/Emmanuel are used by Jews and have been continually traditionally used for thousands of years, right? It is no more saying your kid *IS* G-d than naming a kid Josiah ("G-d supports") or Jonathan ("gift of G-d") is.
For that matter I would see more ego in naming your kid Michael ("who is like G-d") than Emmanuel, which is a simple expression of faith akin to Eliora ("G-d is my light") and I don't really have a problem with naming kids Michael.
Its a family name for me. They go by Manny. I don't see the issue. It is a culturally relevant name. I don't know what the Christian stance on its use is, but we're not Christian...? I would find it far odder for us to use the name, say, Christopher, than Emmanuel?
March 2nd, 2013 08:13 PM #35Senior Member
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I mean I can understand if Christians don't think of it the same way and that's cool. I would have thought names like Jesus or Joshua would be more off-limits but I don't pretend to have been brought up that way and understand it properly.
I was just saying why someone else might use it without thinking it's too much - I love Emmanuel/Immanuel for a boy and Immanuela for a girl.
March 2nd, 2013 08:23 PM #37
Emmanuel as a middle name because of the meaning. Our son was born still at 21 weeks and this name fit with him, the situation and the mn theme we have going with our other children. We know our child is not God and never wanted to convey that, but this name is commonly.used all over the world and like I said, it fit our son and our very sad situation. Not trying to be catty, just sharing our experience.
But back to the original topic, Lucifer is a horrible name to give a child no matter what you believe. Same goes with Adolf, even if you had a beloved great great grandfather with this same name, please choose a variation.Married to my love since August 2001
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March 2nd, 2013 08:56 PM #39
Pros of giving a child a "forbidden" name: Your kid will have a unique name with an interesting history, a name you probably like and agree with your spouse on. They (and by extension, you) will probably get a lot of attention. You'll even be able to make a (very loud) statement about your beliefs, interests, or aesthetic.
Cons of giving a child a "forbidden" name: You will offend people. Let me be more specific. Some people (possibly most people) upon being introduced to your child will experience the deep, gut-twisting, nauseated feeling associated with having a bandage ripped off a still-raw wound. And yes, that is how it feels as a Jew when I see a little Aryan boy named Cohen and hear his parents explain that they just liked the sound, thought it was cute, it's not like they're Jewish, or have any Jewish friends, or know any Jewish people at all--perish the thought! I can't speak for Black people when it comes to the names Sambo and Jemima, but I imagine someone who has been hurt by the associated stereotypes, and whose ancestors have been quite literally dehumanized by these representations, would have their own complicated feelings about them.
To be perfectly honest, I have a lot less sympathy when it comes to offending Christians. Jews and Black people have a long history of persecution in America and Europe. Christians don't (and before anyone brings up the persecution of Lutherans and Puritans and Catholics: bear in mind that whatever denomination they may have adhered to, at the end of the day the guys in charge were still Christian).Simon Valor | Eloise Faye | Judah Sage | Thea Marina | Felix Orion | Iris Cordelia | Roscoe Benjamin | Lydia Wren | Jasper Conroy | Phaedra Naomi | Adrian Bruno | Lucinda 'Indie' Jane | Wallace Finnegan | Sylvie Winifred | Charles 'Charlie' Elliot | Juniper Sophie | Julian 'Jules' Atlas | Matilda Sailor | Marlowe Charles | Alice Elizabeth | Jack Mariner | Marigold 'Maggie' Susan
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