Are these just too effeminate?

[yahbrahchill]

Hey guys!

So me and my DH have been sifting through names for a bit. And there are a few names we keep going back to, only the femininity has us a bit worried.

We are almost completely convinced to use the name Saff, though it seems more of a nn. But the problem comes from trying to...un-nickname it with something like Saffron, or maybe Sapphire.

Are Saffron and Sapphire just too much for a boy? Are there any other names that could work with Saff? (Or does it seem more likely to just nix it all?)

We both also really love Archer. The problem coming from picking a middle name...

I really love Archer Grace. But am a little afraid it might be cause for some teasing, even as just a middle name. We've also considered Archer Gray/Grey.

Any other suggestions, possibly keeping with the same sound?

This little one is going to stay a mystery till it's time and we have already chosen a girl's name; Harriet Sage. He/She will be joining their sister, little baby Winter Blue.

[blade]

I find it almost impossible to believe that the same human being would name one daughter Winter Blue, a second daughter Harriet, and think Saffron, Sapphire and Grace were good boys' names. Esp a human being with the lovely name of Ciara Yvonne. But just in case:

Saffron, Sapphire and Grace are completely unworkable as boys' names.

Saff, if it must be had, can be obtained from

Asafa, as in Jamaican sprinter Asafa Powell
Stafford or Safford
Safi (Arabic name meaning 'pure')
Seraphim / serafim
Jehoshaphat (cruel)

[ottilie]

It seems pretty schizo to me too, but I actually know a boy with Grace as a middle. It's his grandmother's maiden name though, his father bears it as well.

[impossibledream91]

I don't have anything very helpful to say, but I think Saffron could work for a boy if you really wanted it to. Mostly I just wanted to say that I think Winter Blue is a very beautiful name!

[yahbrahchill]

Aha; I'm actually not sure how to take that first part xD...

But yes, I figured both Saffron and Sapphire would really just not work, hence asking for some help! I've never met a Saffron, and just don't like Sapphire as a girls name.

I definitely love Safford, maybe even Safi. Much more.

[yahbrahchill]

Hmm; I can see it being used as a family name. Maybe it is just too pretty other wise. But it's good to hear its not completely unheard of.

[taz]

Saffron, Sapphire & Grace all seem very femme to me.

Grey or Gray work. Grayson works. Even just Saf is ok. Sufjohn? Is that a name? Maybe look into that. Joseph could be Seffi or Sef in my book.

[coley11]

Love Archer Grey!

[yahbrahchill]

I don't have anything very helpful to say, but I think Saffron could work for a boy if you really wanted it to. Mostly I just wanted to say that I think Winter Blue is a very beautiful name!

I had actually thought Saffron was a more male name, but maybe I'm just trying to convince myself! xD
And thank you, that's very kind.

[dantea]

While I find your naming style all over the place and am not entirely sure if it's hypothetical or not, I'll go ahead and answer.

Personally, I don't know why Grace couldn't be used as a middle name for a boy as 1) It's a virtue/word name and therefore technically genderless, 2) Sounds very similar to plenty of other boys names, 3) has been used historically on boys as well as other virtue names and 4) It's a middle name and he won't likely be telling everyone what it is and if he doesn't like it, he could just say "I don't have one."

All that being said, Archer Grace sounds very nice. Archer Grey/Gray is pretty cool too. I think Winter Blue is nice too. Sort of "weird" middle name with a nice word name (like Archer) with varied of use (Like Harriet).

For names Saff could work for, Saffron, being a word, would work on a boy, but I think it's too much with Harriet and Winter. Sapphire is too feminine for as a first name for a boy.

How about:

Asafo
Msafiri
Safa
Safford
Safi
Safwan