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February 18th, 2013 02:12 AM #166
I had started thinking you were pregnant, Blade (you fooled me with the XX in your signature), but non-pregnant women are fine on this forum IMO as long as they stay on pregnancy topics, which hasn't been a problem yet.
Also I realize that after my criticism, people could have come to the reasonable conclusion that I'm against hospital birth or even hospitals (I was extremely tired and cranky when I wrote that and I thought I had cooled off enough to be civil but apparently not). Though I am more naturally minded, I do believe there is definitely a need for hospitals.
I am surprised that my documentary selection caused this much controversy. It shows doctors that truly care about their patients and even a home birth gone "bad", so I don't see why it's anti-hospital/doctor. Now I will agree that it has parts that need you to use your own discernment. A random woman, I believe, does say something to the form of how OBs should just be surgeons and all they want to do is cut people open. Now that's ridiculous. Perhaps there are a few out there that are "knife happy", but that's by no means the majority. Of all the OBs I've met or heard about, I've only known of two that were disturbingly flippant about c-sections and loved to push for them. They were so blase about c-sections that the other OBs would admonish them for their attitude. There will always be duds in any profession, but that doesn't mean you should disvalue the profession. It only means that you need to thoroughly search for the best available.
Of course while watching the Business of Being Born and the following four mini information episodes, you will have to use your own judgement, but as the saying goes don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
On to related but other pregnancy news. In my area there aren't any hospitals with birthing capabilities, which is new for me since I was originally from a more populated location. Usually I would only think about home birth if there was a hospital within 5-10min (preferable 5min or under), but now I have to consider whether I want a midwife at home or the possibility of giving birth in the car all by myself on the way to the hospital (with Eldon coming so fast that is a very real concern). My husband and I are driving to the nearest birthing hospital tomorrow, which has it's own birth center and midwives!Stay-at-home Mama toEldonandUlrik
February 18th, 2013 03:51 AM #168
Thank you much, gigi, anajo, and kitty. And thanks, blade, for the - as usual - enlightening and fascinating info. My friend, like I mentioned, was upset for a few days after the birth. She was quickly "reassured" by the doula and midwife and even to this day praises the "experience" of natural home birth. I would rather have a healthy baby than any particular experience, but blessedly she does have a healthy one. Little Eunitas is a year old last month. So the story has a very happy ending.
A few days after I posted on this thread I happened to see a hilarious video of comedian Patton Oswalt discussing pioneer women giving birth, dreaming of clean hospitals filled with needles containing magical medicines that take the pain away. I posted it on FB, where even my home birth aficionado and crunchy attachment parenting friends thought it was pretty funny. :-)
No matter where you come down on the issues I think we all have to acknowledge its a luxurious decision to get to make. Very much a "first world problem." :-)Mrs. H.
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February 18th, 2013 04:14 AM #170
I also wanted to add a word of congratulations to all the newly expecting ladies. I am hopeful that I'll be able to join your ranks in the coming months. Here's to happy, healthy pregnancies and babies for all of you!
February 18th, 2013 01:11 PM #172
April, although because of the previous experience they have a c-section scheduled.Blessed to be a mother of 5.
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February 18th, 2013 02:04 PM #174
Patton Oswalt, that bit was hilarious.
When I was pregnant, I pushed for an elective c-section for many reasons. But my town/community is very "crunchy" and I had to fight to the bitter end to get one, which ultimately turned into a horrible birthing experience. They absolutely would not give me an elective c-section, it was against the hospitals policy, so I had to be induced and after 23 hours of pain, not dilating, cervical balloon, Epidural not being placed right, I underwent a c-section anyway (which was a traumatic experience by itself, the epidural not working and all) And after all of that, I ask myself, if they had just listened to me and gave me what I wanted from the beginning it would have most likely prevented all that hell I went through. I feel the same with mothers wanting a natural birth, doctors need to listen to their patients more and be more understanding. I am aware some women take natural birth way too seriously, and are so stubborn that sometimes they harm themselves or their baby by insisting on natural birth.
About the Business of Being Born, I was constantly harassed by that movie when I was pregnant. My mom and all her friends were constantly criticizing me about wanting a c-section and their last resort argument was always "Just watch this documentary, it will change your mind" but I had already seen it and it actually made me want a c-section more. I got so frustrated I kinda snapped on someone when they mentioned it for the thousandth time. I grew up in that kind of environment, that Ina Mae Gaskins lady? She is like all my mom's friends. Imagine that. *shudder*My cherished daughter, Rowan Jane. ~b. 10/2011~
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