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February 14th, 2013 11:10 AM #161
@joyfulmomto8- Congratulations! 11 is an exciting number. Will pray that everything goes well for you.
@lineska- We have decided to wait to find out the gender this time too. Neither is better in my mind, I just enjoy surprises!
Wow, you have quite the moving project ahead of you. On the bright side, it seems that you have enough space to make it work.
@missusaytch- No one's opinion is worthless. You are right, footling breach is an extremely dangerous position and should never be taken lightly. I am glad that mother and baby survived the situation.
@alfiejoe- That sounds horrible. I've never had that problem, but my sister used to all the time. I remember her shutting herself in her room with the lights off and buried under the covers all day long. A friend of mine also had demobilizing migraines. Both she and my sister found out that they had gluten allergies and since then their migraines have disappeared, except for the days when they accidentally eat gluten. This of course may not be your case, but it might be worth checking with an allergen specialist. Also, you are probably already doing this, but drinking lots of water may help reduce your symptoms.
I agree, no matter what you will make it work, and your baby will be just fine.
@grecianern- Congratulations and welcome! I'm due in Sept, so we both just made it. It's very exciting!Mama of two beautiful boys!
Like arrows in the hand of a warrior,
So are the children of one’s youth.
Happy is the man who has his quiver full of them;
February 14th, 2013 03:43 PM #163
@blade, I could not agree more about Ricki Lake and her irresponsible BS. I actually went to a screening of The Business of Being Born in Seattle when it was first being released/promoted and could not believe how utterly unscientific and sensationalized it all was. It seemed as if Ricki had made the whole thing as a strongly emotional reaction to what she viewed as a negative childbirth experience (i.e., things did not go exactly the way she had envisioned, but she and her baby were fine). It was kind of scary how many people are irrationally committed to things going a certain way during labor and delivery. So ironic, because parenting itself demands flexibility!Mom to James Daniel (11) William Joseph (almost 10), Elise Marie (8), and Zachary Allan (2)
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February 14th, 2013 04:07 PM #165
Love it!Anxiously awaiting the arrival of Luther's little brother November 2015!
Currently loving: Magnus, Tiberius, Gregor, Corvus and Ulric.
February 17th, 2013 03:16 PM #167
And also, I don't see how this is off topic in a pregnant forum where just about everything gets discussed. True it could be debated about further in it's own separate forum, but there's nothing that states it as being off limits in this one.
Furthermore @ Rin, I think it was rather condescending of you to basically say that this poster had no right posting here at all. Blade, for example, is very active in all threads because she has solid knowledge to offer being a medical professional, but to the best of my knowledge is not currently pregnant. I don't see you lambasting her. If you don't agree with Missus's post that's fine and dandy, but don't sit there and think you have any right banning her (or anybody else) from offering an opinion. Even if that opinion is based off of her friend's experience. You have the option available to you to block seeing her posts, and mine for that matter if it truly bothers you.Not so done having children after all. We're not ready for TTC quite yet but when we do get pregnant,the husband handed sole naming rights over to his name obsessed wife!
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February 17th, 2013 04:37 PM #169
Thanks @gigi and @missUSH. You are quite right, I am not pregnant, though am secretly part of the TTC crowd. I do wonder whether or not I'm butting in sometimes so it's nice to hear that my perspective is somewhat interesting (though if is crosses the line, please let me know).
@missUSH, you are entirely right about footling breech. It's by far the most dangerous presentation because the feet and lower body of a baby are so much smaller, in diameter, than the head and shoulders. Since the umbilical cord-- the baby' lifeline-- enters the baby's body at the level of the umbilicus (obviously), when the legs and lower body slip out the cord slips out too. It is then compressed, smashed against the vaginal wall and the pelvic outlet, by the baby's upper body and/or head. The baby is therefore partially or completely deprived of oxygen. Those little legs and lower body can exit the cervix before it's anywhere close to 10cm dilated, so it can be a loooong time before the entire baby is delivered, and all the while the umbilical cord is compressed. This condition is called head entrapment and it is truly life-threatening, an obstetric emergency. In many case series the *mortality* (not brain damage, not cerebral palsy, but mortality) of footling breech babies is 30%. (The figure usually quoted by OBs is 20-25%-- NOT in a hospital, these are 'natural' case series largely from the third world and homebirth statistics, as scanty as those are). At home or in a birthing center there are absolutely no interventions available to save these babies.
Frank breech-- where the baby's butt is the presenting part, with the legs straight up next to the head-- is the safest since the diameter of the hindquarters is roughly that of the head, and since the legs somewhat protect the umbilical cord. However, once the baby is delivered to the level of the umbilicus it is is the attendant's job to immediately assist the delivery-- basically, pull on the baby in conjunction with maternal pushing-- to minimized the amount of time the cord is compressed by the head/upper body.
Even frank breech, safe though it is, is associated with a 2-4x increase in perinatal mortality when delivered vaginally, in the US, in hospitals, due to the cord compression. That's why many obstetricians have a blanket no-vaginal breech policy, and only perform c-sections.
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