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    If their first baby is a girl, she would not be Diana.

    Now that their first baby will, in theory, ascend to the throne (that's assuming the UK still has a monarchy then), so if the first baby is a girl she will be the future Queen. There will be no Queen Diana, it's not a traditional royal name in the UK.

    I fully expect they will, of course, use it as a middle name.

    I can actually see them using Elizabeth for a girl, after the Queen, and it's also Kate's middle name (and her mum's MN too). And of course, it was also the Queen Mother's name, and William adored his great-grandmother.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they used Margaret as a MN - perhaps not for a first daughter - but if they had a subsequent daughter. Princess Margaret was the Queen's sister and I have a hunch that she would be honored if possible.

    I'm going to stick my neck out and predict their first child will be a girl and she'll be Elizabeth Diana Charlotte or Elizabeth Charlotte Diana.

    If I recall, I remember reading that William has said they'd like two children, but I think their second child will turn out to be boy/girl twins. I don't know why I think this, I just do.

    I think they'd be called Henry Philip Albert & Alice Margaret Anne.

    Traditionally it seems that the family of the future monarch's spouse are not honored in names, so for example William and Harry don't have any names from Diana's family, even her father. I find that rather bizarre when I first learned of that. Therefore it's hard to say if Kate's family will be honored in the names, and on past form, it seems unlikely.

    Edited to add: I also agree with archiemrs11 about the name Diana - I don't think Wililam would want to give any daughter him and Kate have, the pressure of having the first name Diana, and all the expectation that would bring. Knowing what the British media are like, they'd all be expecting this hypothetical child to be "just like Diana", and that's an awful lot for anyone to live up to.
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    I love Alice, it would be a nice homage to both the DoE's mother and also the late Duchess of Gloucester.

    It would however surprise me very much if the child isn't given four names like everyone else in the immediate family.

    Quote Originally Posted by blade View Post
    The German names (Charlotte, Albert) are still off-limits, imo.

    They have spoken candidly in interviews about using Diana for a first daughter, at least as a first middle. Pippa Middleton strikes me as an unlikely namesake.
    I'd understand why they wouldn't use a name like Adolf, but to be quite fair both Charlotte and Albert have been used so many times in the royal family (Harry bears the name Albert and it was the birth name of HM's father as well).

    Diana would never be used as a first name for a firstborn daughter, first of all there would be the constant comparisons to Princess Diana, and Diana isn't a "Queen's name" so to speak. I think they're gonna stick to tradition with with their first child's name, no matter which sex it'll be.
    Philippa is Catherine's sister so why not? Philippa herself is named after Edward III's wife, the Queen Consort, Philippa of Hainault. Besides, I think they'd use Philippa for the Duke of Edinburgh more than for Pippa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shvibziks View Post
    I'd understand why they wouldn't use a name like Adolf, but to be quite fair both Charlotte and Albert have been used so many times in the royal family (Harry bears the name Albert and it was the birth name of HM's father as well).
    The Windsors have taken great pains to distance themselves from their Hanoverian past. Charlotte and Albert were overtly German, back when the Royal family were still Saxe-Coburg-Gothas. After WW1 no one was given these names as firsts (though, as you noted, they're still given as honorifics in the middle).
    Philippa is Catherine's sister so why not? Philippa herself is named after Edward III's wife, the Queen Consort, Philippa of Hainault. Besides, I think they'd use Philippa for the Duke of Edinburgh more than for Pippa.
    Even though Philippa as a name has a legitimate history as a minor royal name, it is currently too tied to Pippa Middleton and as noted above heirs to the throne are not named after anyone who was not born royal. Neither are cross-gender honorifics used (i.e. Philippa for Philip).

    I think, from his interviews (which are unfailingly polite and proper), Prince William strongly disagrees with the attempts made to separate his mother from the Royals after her divorce and death, and does not want her written out of the family's history books. I suspect he'll want the name Diana given (again, most likely as a first middle) as an act of tribute and defiance.
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    For a boy, names like Philip and Richard could also be possibilities.
    A Philip would be King Philip II and a Richard would be King Richard IV.

    Quote Originally Posted by blade View Post
    The Windsors have taken great pains to distance themselves from their Hanoverian past. Charlotte and Albert were overtly German, back when the Royal family were still Saxe-Coburg-Gothas. After WW1 no one was given these names as firsts (though, as you noted, they're still given as honorifics in the middle).
    I think they're returning and quite frankly, it would be silly otherwise. Lord Nicholas Windsor's two sons both have "Germanic" names, Albert and Leopold. Charlotte is a very popular name all over the world practically, if not at least in the English-speaking countries. I do however think it's a long-shot to believe that a firstborn daughter would be named Charlotte, as the BRF seems to be loving traditional names (like they should, I feel quite sorry for Princess Estelle of Sweden).

    Quote Originally Posted by blade View Post
    Even though Philippa as a name has a legitimate history as a minor royal name, it is currently too tied to Pippa Middleton and as noted above heirs to the throne are not named after anyone who was not born royal. Neither are cross-gender honorifics used (i.e. Philippa for Philip).
    There's no doubt Philippa wont be used as a first name, it's too close to Philip and obviously there is Pippa Middleton, and I never claimed otherwise. I do think it's a likely "middle" name, if not for a firstborn girl, then for a younger sister.

    Quote Originally Posted by blade View Post
    I think, from his interviews (which are unfailingly polite and proper), Prince William strongly disagrees with the attempts made to separate his mother from the Royals after her divorce and death, and does not want her written out of the family's history books. I suspect he'll want the name Diana given (again, most likely as a first middle) as an act of tribute and defiance.
    Obviously William would never not call his daughter Diana because of the divorce, more because she immediately would be dubbed "the new Diana" even more than she would otherwise (being Diana's granddaughter, there will be comparisons for sure). I am sure he's gonna pay tribute to her either in a daughter's name (Diana or Frances) or a son's (Francis) though. He'll find a way, but if his firstborn is a girl, I think it's extremely unlikely that her first name will be Diana (or Frances for that matter).
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    Some of you suggest 3 names. Why?

    Both William and Henry have 4, do they not?

    I am guessing Alexander Charles Michael Philip and Matilda Elizabeth Diana Carole.

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