unexpectedly expecting a fifth.

[namespy]

I'm mum to four kids: Louis, Hector, Lottie (officially Ottilie) and Martha.
That is where I always intended to stop, but now, 4 years later, I have a new partner and expecting again.

This is a first baby for him, and obviously he has strong opinions about what he wants our child to be called.
That in itself is new to me- my ex-husband loved what I picked out, and was really always v persuadable.

Our list would be something like:
Penelope
Helena
Virginia*
India*

Kit
Jasper
Roman* (Love the nickname Ro)
Felix*

-We both love Leo but its just too many L names
Starred are the ones that he favours.
I'm not entirely sold on any of these, yet.

The only other 'requirements' are that the name not start with O, as our little one's surname may or may not begin with O. Am currently in the midst of a debate as to surnames- hyphenated surname? his? mine? Because my other kids all share a surname, I would love this baby to have something of the same name too. But obviously this is an issue in itself as their surname is my ex-husband's. Complicated.

Anyway- any suggestions of names which might suit us would be fantastic.

Thanks a lot.

[sillysheila]

First off, I love that you have a Martha. I wish I could convince my husband on that!

I think Penelope or Roman would make a welcome addition to your other children. Other suggestions:

Beatrice
Flora
Sylvie
Frances
Hazel
Eloise
Cecille

Boris
Verne
Alton
Wyatt
Nolan
George
Howard
Martin

As for the last names, would you consider giving this baby an addition middle name that is you other children's surname. I know that it is your ex's last name, but it is also the last name of your other children.

Congratulations!

[charlieandperry1]

Out of your lists I love Helena, India, Jasper, Roman and Felix- I think they all work well with your other children. It's a shame about Leo, but you could always use it as a middle name. I quite like Christian with nn Kit.

My suggestions are: Beau, Joseph, Edward/Edmund/Theodore (nn Teddy), Henry, Jesse, Thomas, Max, Alice, Lucy, Amelia, Rosa, Sophie, Eleanor

Would love to see a Joseph Leo Roman Leo or Henry Leo!

[lori johnson]

Congratulations and welcome to Nameberry, Name Spy!

My recommendation is ...

01. Agatha [Greek - three syllables] or Theodore [Greek - three syllables]
02. Hector [Greek - two syllables]
03. Louis [German - two syllables]
04. Martha [Hebrew - two syllables]
05. Ottilie [German - three syllables]

... a sibset comprised of two- and three- syllable vintage German, Greek and Hebrew names with a similar feel.

P.S. Admiring your taste in names .

[kateinlouvain]

Love Virginia and Jasper.

[sunshine kid]

I love your other children's names, and its sad you cannot use Leo but like pp have said you can always use it in the middle spot. Out of the names you are considering I love Felix and Helena, the others are also nice.

Here is some ideas:

Daphne
Emilia
Petra
Clara
Greta

Alastair/Alistair
Nathaniel
Walter
Rhys
Arthur
Isaac
Vincent
Rupert

Rupert Leo is dashing.

[ghostofjupiter]

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I think Penelope and Jasper would go perfectly!

Other suggestions: {sorry for repeats}
Beatrix
Amelie
Violet
Alice
Geneva
Primrose
Clara
Matilda

Arthur
Leander
Evander
Felix
Rupert
Sebastian
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[namespy]

All these responses are great- thank you.

sillysheila- I like the idea of the additional middle name. Feels a less difficult compromise on my husband's part than the double barrelled surname.
I also like a lot of the names youu suggested- big fan of Eloise but somehow can't imagine calling my child that. Maybe because I know of a few baby Eloises? Unsure. I like Hazel too and am happy toying with the idea of using that one. Cecille I had never considered and like, too. Will put both those to my partner. (Not a big fan of the shortened versions of Cecille though. Cecie or Cee Cee I find pretty twee. Do you think they're inevitable?)

charlieandperry1- Leo could work pretty well as a middle. I like some of your suggestions, but I think I'm looking for something a little less unusual. If Lucy and Eleanor weren't so popular I would be tempted to use them though!

lori johnson- Firstly, thank you for the compliment and the well postulated suggestions! I like Agatha a lot- will be putting this tentatively forward. My partner usually shies away from anything he sees as too 'stuffy' (likewise too 'flamboyant') so we will see how this goes.
Theodore I like but I have just heard it so much that its lost its shine for me! It doesn't excite me quite enough to use I think.

sunshine kid- Your suggestions were the most unexpected actually. I hadn't ever placed some of the girls' names beside my kids', but they work in an offbeat way (exactly what I'm looking for)
I like Petra a lot but find it slightly cold, which puts me off. I think its the heavy 'tra' sound.
Clara appeals to me, so I'm definitely keeping that one on the pile.
Funnily enough, both Rupert and Alistair are high on my list of names. Alistair has got a straight off 'no' from Pops, and Rupert is on his maybe pile (Rupert Leo sounds excellent) I like Vincent! Does Vincent produce enough of an impact? Thats kind of my worry. He might almost be too neutral and benign sounding for me. Haha

ghostofjupiter- I adore Beatrix. Sadly, I have never been with anyone who shares this view. Actually don't think I've ever been in a room with anyone in real life who shares my views on Beatrix! I like Violet, but am unsure of whether its a bit 'trending' or not. I know this probably shouldn't matter, but I don't want to give my child a name which carbon dates them too much, as it were.
Like Clara!

The search continues, basically. Any more input from anyone is very welcome.

[svea]

With your sibset, Helena and Jasper would be the best matches IMO. India or Felix would be great too. Good luck!