sorceress - You think Alice and Freya go together? Hm...I guess I always looked at it like Alice belongs in that vintage-y sort of sibset and Freya is so distinctly mythological. I like your pairings, but unfortunately Illyria and Orion are firmly on the GP list, courtesy of Hubby veto power.
vch - See above, I always thought Freya clashed in style with the other names. As for Juliet getting shortened to Julie or even Jules, unfortunately I've seen it happen...and that would just absolutely kill the name for me.
dantea - Do you think Freya and Ophelia share too many sounds? I LOVE Soraya...she was on my shortlist for a middle for Alice, but Hubby vetoed the entire list, including Sora :( Thalia, Phaedra, Avalon, Fauna, and all of the Silvie's are magical! I love the look, sound, and feel of Phaedra, but I hesitate because her myth is so violently tragic. Avalon was vetoed by Hubby's "no place names" rule ::sulks:: Fauna is an interesting idea if I go with Ophelia Wren. Hubs actually loves Isadora, but we have a friend named Isa so he won't use it. I do like your Evie suggestions, especially Genevieve. Thanks so much!!
Rhia - wow, I love your description of Elowen! I'm definitely adding some points to her column after that. I just don't know what I would pair her with...the only V names I seem to like are Vashti (adore this name but concerned about the reaction from friends and family...some people consider her a Biblical "bad girl"), Victoria (only tentatively like this name. It's too popular and I have an acquaintance with this name so it could be awkward), Viola (too musical instrument?) / Violet (too common?) / Violette (too French for Hubby to handle?), and Vivienne (complicated personal reasons why this could be a bad idea). It's just so problematic @_@
I actually love most of your suggestions! Luna, Evangeline, and Avonlea are on my GP list (darn that Hubby veto power!), we know an Anastasia, a Fiona, an Aurora/Rory, and a Faye, so those unfortunately won't work. Phoebe is an intriguing idea, I never really considered her before! Do you think she's too similar to Ophelia? Same with Odessa. Lyra is actually one of the only three names my husband has ever voluntarily suggested AND Philip Pullman's trilogy is in my top five booklist...but I have not been able to fall for the name! I want to so badly, but all I hear is "liar" :( You have given me some really great suggestions though! Thank you!
boyandgirl - Thanks! I agree ;)
reesespieces - I really want Evie to have a full name to back her up. I know some people really go for the the nickname vibe, but I'm always drawn to long, elaborate, feminine names...it's my husband who likes them short! For me, Evie on her own is not enough, I would always assume it was a nickname for something else. Thank you for your suggestions! Oceania is gorgeous and thoroughly magical, but Hubs will never go for it.
seazuno - Thanks! Cosette is adorable, but I have trouble picturing her as a grown woman. Esme and Rhea are cute, and I actually really love Thea from your signature. Do you pronounce it THEE-ah or TAY-ah?
redwoodfey - Oh, it drives me CRAZY when that happens! I have a new laptop and the touchpad is like an inch to the left from what I'm used to...so I keep hitting it with my wrist when I type, resulting in all manner of wacky doings. I feel your pain!
Thank you so much for the analysis! It great of you to take the boys' names into account, I don't know why I didn't do that this time around. You're right, Juliet is too risky given my loathing for Julie, and Clara is rather meek next to Zion and Gideon. Freya is the exact opposite, perfect with the boys and a little jarring with the girls. I need something to bridge the gap, and Elowen seems to be perfect with both...but there's the whole Evie issue to consider.
I loved reading your suggestion list! They are definitely more magical than practical...Eirwen, Fairuza, Lysandra, Corisande, and Nimue are my favorites, especially the latter two. I think Nimue could potentially fit, especially since I could say she's honoring my sister Naomi...it would just be a matter of convincing Hubby. I doubt I could get away with Corisande...but she's made of epic win, and Cora does work well with the other girls' names. Viola is one I've considered because of the Shakespearean connection, but I'm concerned that she's too associated with the musical instrument. I've actually never considered Bianca, Rhiannon, or Tressa...I'll have to mull these over. Bianca does have the Shakespeare link, a Rhiannon authored one of my favorite books and Rhia is a cute nickname, and Tressa is just pretty and fun to say. I love River from your Evie list! It adds another layer of awesome, a la Firefly. Thanks for the fantastic ideas!
thatkathryngirl - I'm hoping Clarabelle Cow is not as familiar to today's kids as she was to my generation. I have heard Juliet shortened to Julie and the thought just makes me cringe. I think I'm going to let that option go. I do prefer Evie as a nickname for something longer, as explained above, but I appreciate your feedback!
kala_way - ooh Clara Fawn is darling! And I do love Evelyn Fae...maybe with this spelling it won't seem as much like we're using the name of an acquaintance?
dindlee - After reading everyone's feedback, Freya is definitely growing on me, especially with Alice. I'll have to mull it over some more.
Thank you everyone for your feedback and suggestions! I always feel better when I know the Berries are on the case, because it's sure to result in some great ideas!
Juliet: Really like. So pretty.
Clara: Like. Have never heard of Clarabelle Cow. Clara Barton is a great namesake.
Elowen: Love "wen" names and this is a wonderful choice but am tired of "E" names right now; half of the babies I know lately have been given "E" names.
Freya - Dislike, not exactly sure why. Just seems odd, not a fan of "F" names.
I agree Genevieve is beautiful. You could use "Jenna" to satisfy your husband, or Neve is my preferred nn.
First, I don't think Juliet will be shortened to Julie. I know a few Juliets that just go by Juliet, no nickname at all. I think you'd be fine! And a lot of people wouldn't just assume a nickname anyway, so you could just tell them that it's "just Juliet" if they do.
How about Evelina for Evie? I think it's practical, but has a magical sound to it, and Evie as a nickname makes it even more practical.
I think you could get away with the more "impractical" choices as middle names. For example Alice Illyria would be wonderful!
Eira ▹ Or Gwyneira?
Arianwen ▹ nickname of Ari, Winnie, Annie?
Gwendolen ▹ nickname of Gwen, Dolly, Wendy?
Belle ▹ Alice and Belle would be so cute together!
Oh, and I think Alice and Freya go wonderfully together! They're very "British" imo
I'm so tired (it's late in Italia!) but I wanted to sneak in and comment...
I can absolutely see you and Hubs with a Freya, much more so than a Genevieve or Juliet. Clara is lovely too, have you read the Heidi books? Anyway, back to Freya. Freya's strong and beautiful, courageous and enchanting, just like her would be Mama. I think it's got all the practical magic you're looking for. It's recognisable and usable, yet different. I like it spelled the traditional way better... But I get that the simplified version might go over easier in America.
Juliet's pretty watered down to me, I hear it so often. But I do live that you mentioned the gorgeous Emilie Autumn song (she sang it last time I saw her live, it was awesome!). Maybe it's not quite as generic over there as it is in England? It's a petty name, and nickname Jules is sweet.
I'm not a big Genevieve fan, and I've tried her on time and time again. Where did Annevieve go? It was gorgeous! And Genoveva and Guinevere strikes me as more fitting for your wee li'l witchlet... ;)
I don't have any good suggestions, but I'll try to think of some when the hot air cools down and the mosquitoes give up eating Dita and myself. I am typing this on my phone with a net over my head, that's how much I love you Sessha! xoxox ;)
iams - I had forgotten all about Clara Barton! Thanks for the reminder, she was pretty awesome. I hear what you're saying about the E names, they've really grown in popularity. I too love the -wen ending...If I ending up using something else to get the Evie nickname, Elowen would definitely be Winnie over Ella. Genevieve is pretty, but Evie would be the only nickname I'd use, although Neve is really cute.
sapphires - Evelina is really pretty, although I almost prefer Evelyn. Oh you don't know how much I wanted Alice Illyria!!! Hubby wouldn't hear of it :( He is more lenient on middle names, but not by much. Gwyneira is another one that I was madly in love with, but succumbed to the Hubby veto. From your suggestions, Gwendolen stands out to me...I love the idea of Wendy for the Peter Pan link and another Winnie option. I'm glad you like Freya in the sibset, I'm so topsy-turvy when it comes to her...
otterlicious - You are so sweet! I do feel quite loved, thank you for braving the bugs for little ol' me ;) I loved Clara in the Heidi books, that's another association that I'd forgotten all about! You're so right about Freya, she resonates with me far more than Juliet or Genevieve. I think I'm going to be brave and try her out with Hubby. Ooooh, Emilie Autumn, don't you just love her?? Such a powerful, emotive, expressive voice, and her lyrics are pure poetry, even the dark angry songs. I've been known to listen to Shalott on repeat for an hour at a time >_> Annevieve got the axe...she was "too French" -_- I've considered Guinevere, but she just doesn't resonate with me, especially after reading The Mists of Avalon... Thank you again, darling! I hope you enjoy your time in Italia and that the bugs leave you and Ditaroo alone!
I actually think Phoebe and Ophelia could work. My dh vetoes everything, it seems, or Phoebe would be one of my top names. I love the sounds, and for some reason the spelling itself is just attractive to me.
Phoebe is a strong name to me. It just feels so inviting, and strong willed and brave. It feels innocent. I envision a little girl with her hair blowing in the wind, running freely through fields of wildflowers. A little girl as graceful and whimsical as her name.
I have recently been warming up to Clara. I think its quite pretty.
Some other options for you- (i apologize for any repeats)
I pn Lyra like Lee-ruh, which i prefer over lie-ruh. Something to think about.
Also i was thinking a few other ways to get to evie could be Geneva, Genoveva or Everly.
Im actually really loving Everly. It feels magical to me in a way.
In the meantime I will scour the internet for possible v names as a middle for Elowen. :)
Oh, isn't Shallot amazing? I love her wildly. Lucky for me, Dita loves her as well, at least Enchant and Lace, and her breathtaking take on O Mistress Mine... beautiful. I did play I want my innocence back the other day and she waved with her wee little arms... But Husband thought it was weird. Go figure.
Why is Annevieve more French than Genevieve?
Suggestions for the practical magical couple:
Helena/Helene - this is he first name that comes to mind when I hear your description of what you and Hubby wants. It's twice Shakesperarian, once Potterian, it's mythological (Helen of Troy and an Amazon), astronomical (one of Saturn's moons), it's a butterfly! It's sheer awesomeness due to the wonderfully weird, beautiful and enchanting Helena Bonham Carter. In Ancient Greece they actually called the phenomenon St Elmo's Fire Helena.
Ainsel - faery like creature in English folklore
Belinda - "bright serpent". Various literary references.
Deirdre - You know the story of Deirdre of the sorrows I presume, but is she too Irish?
Giselle - the ballet! And the character in Enchanted is... enchanting. There's also the Arthurian link.
Hulda - in Scandinavian folklore these are stunningly beautiful nymphs with tails who enchant and lure helpless men into the forests.
Iselin - Norwegian version of Aisling.
Ivalo - I don't know much about this, but I keep seeing it in Zelia's signature and I'm hooked!
Laudine - the lady of the fountain! Need I say more?
Marion - or Marian or Marianne. I selfishly suggest this. What's cooler than being named after maid Marian?
Meredith - I think I've suggested this before but I'm throwing it at you again. It's that good.
Nerissa - I'm sure you've thought about this... And that it's been nixed. But it's so beautiful and Shakesperarian and nereid-esque.
Olwen - the girl so gentle and beautiful white flowers sprang from her footprints. Too impractical?
Petra - beautiful city and a ton of rocking fictional characters.
Selma - I believe there was a Swedish princess by this name a loooong time ago, but I'm not sure. Also a sea monster.
Tamsin - just because its cute.
Tilda - Swinton, which should be a synonym for fantastical awesomeness.
Tyra or Thyra - Danish Queen consort who led armies in battle. It's old Norse, derived from thor's name.
Vilda - means wild in Swedish.