http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC175811/ in full text.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC175811/ in full text.
Hey all. Haven't managed to get on here for a while. There's heaps for me to catch up on now! No luck for us last month. First real try for #3 aft coming off pill so not all that surprised. Happy to see that my cycle is back on track as normal though so am crossing fingers for this month.
@Blade did you do your test?
@alzora how are your travelling along? Been thinking of you :)
Ok, now I'm going back through the thread to see what I have missed! Looks like a few newbies have joined the thread and some happy news for people too (yay!)
Back soon :)
Sorry Poppy. That was the *second* article you cited, not the first.
The study by Li et al has a couple of problems. Firstly, reported NSAID use is only 5% (much lower than the rate of occasional sporadic NSAID use by the general population) but secondly and most importantly, the purpose of this study was not to talk about NSAIDs and pregnancy. It was to conduct intensive interviews on magnetic field exposure and pregnancy, and the authors decided to perform a little sub-group analysis looking at NSAIDs. They held interviews, the focus of which and the informed consent for which was all about magnetic fields. And oh, they just happened to ask a couple of questions about NSAID use. This is open to an extreme amount of recall bias, **particularly in women who had a miscarriage.** Women who had a miscarriage are much more likely soul-search and remember every small thing they did or consumed as opposed to women who had healthy pregnancies. It's an inescapable phenomenon in retroactive interviewing, especially when the healthy women are thinking about magnetic fields and not NSAIDs. Since the lower range of the 95% CI was 1.0 for their primary association it just squeaked by into statistical significance (and publishability).Quote:
Originally Posted by poppy528
The gold standard paper is the prospective cohort study I cited above. When nearly half of women take the drugs occasionally, that's a nice hefty sample size and a really clean study. Luckily they found no increased risk of miscarriage with occasional NSAID use.
Cygnus and Alzora – thank you for your sympathy! Not that I think much about it, only when I think about twins!
And thank you both for your cup experiences. Cygnus, thanks for posting the link to the disposable cups. I think that I will add that to my list of baby-making supplies. ☺ Alzora, I just don’t think I can bring myself to wash Tupperware! Maybe in the tub, and with a dedicated cloth, or paper towels?! I think I do have a small, palm sized container in the cupboard I could use. We shall see.
MrsH – your mom sounds like a pretty amazing woman. ☺
Tvland – hope your first day on Clomid went well, good luck!
Sarah, Sorry to hear that this wasn’t your month. Here’s hoping for May!
Grecienern, I’m so glad that your friend and her baby were okay. But I totally understand feeling “selfishly miserable”. That is a lot of new babies and pregnancies to deal with, especially when you are going through such a tough time in your life. I think it’s normal to feel this way. I am thinking of you! xo
Nowakasia – how was your SIS ultrasound? Hope all your tests went well! Keep us posted.
Hi April, welcome to the TTC thread! I’m sorry to hear about all the troubles you’ve had recently. Hopefully the fertility doctor can figure things out for you!
Megmarie, hope your migraine went away quickly and you’re feeling better now!
Mrstoon – Congratulations! That’s great news!
Blade – crossing my fingers for you!
Allie – hope you get a conclusive test soon!
Ktook – glad to hear your cycle regulated so soon. Good luck next month!
Poppy – good to hear from you, been thinking about you.
Phew, lots of news!
@nowakasia: I only did day 3 labs...I'm supposed to do day 23(?? I think, can't remember and don't have my appt book) now that I'm on the Clomid.
@missusaytch: good luck on this cycle, I think any symptoms will be worth it if I can actually ovulate (and get pregnant!) my doctor said if this doesn't work after a few months I will be looking at another laparoscopic procedure to make sure there isn't more endometrial tissue anywhere...I'm trying to stay positive and hope it doesn't get that far
@blade: good luck! I hope to see good news soon!
As you know, I had my SIS ultrasound today. It was rather uncomfortable to say the least. I had some crazy cramping during it and now as I'm resting at home, the cramping continues.
To sum it up...my doctor told me both of my ovaries have cysts. My egg follicles are not maturing into full eggs and I am not ovulating regularly. The undeveloped follicles are staying put in my ovaries as little cysts. Essentially, I have PCOS - poly cystic ovarian syndrome.
My doc wants to wait to look at my Day 21 labs and then start on a course of treatment. She mentioned Clomid again. She had gotten the results from my Day 3 labs back and said they looked ok, but that she's still waiting on one of the tests to come back.
So I will have to wait the next 2 weeks to have another set of blood tests done. After that, we will see.
I don't know what to feel exactly. I know PCOS is fairly common and that women can get pregnant despite it. I also know it's quite a struggle for many. I feel like I've been given a membership to a club I don't want to be in.... That's a dumb way to describe it I guess. I guess I mostly feel blah and numb. It's been raining and dreary all day long and it matches my mood.
If anyone has anything to share about their experiences with PCOS please do.
@April, welcome to our board. What a difficult experience you've had so far! :( I hope you can find answers from your doctors, and support here on this board. Please keep us posted as you progress with testing.
@Blade, ??????? Waiting in suspense.
@nowakasia, I'm sorry to hear about your discouraging news. :( But as you said yourself, this is something that is often overcome, so keep planning for baby!
@Poppy, what courses of action are you looking into at this point? Do you have a game plan?
I feel sad today. My mom happens to be friends--well, acquaintances--with one of the ER doctors who was in the hospital on the day of my accident. I too have been Facebook friends with said doctor since before the accident. This particular doctor did not personally treat me that day, but she was able to bring my parents updates throughout the night on my condition, explaining it to them in terms they would understand, trying to give them hope while discreetly saying, "It's not looking good." She was a huge help to them. So my mom crossed paths with this doctor the other day and mentioned to her in conversation that I am having trouble TTC [Edit: this is not as awkward as it sounds...as I said, they have been acquaintances for a while, and always give updates on each other's kids], and the doctor brought up pelvic adhesions right away. "She's been through a lot," she told my mom. "I wouldn't be surprised if the problem is scar tissue." I guess the fact that someone else is giving me this same suggestion--a doctor who was there in person and saw what all happened to me with her own eyes--just makes it feel more...real? More likely? Scarier? Not to minimize what Blade had already said to me--obviously I have taken that seriously, and have been attempting to act on it and jump the Great Hurdle of TIB--but now that another doctor, one who was there that day, is suggesting the same thing, I feel like it's less of a "maybe" and more of a "probably." I feel crestfallen. Doctor's appointment on Thursday. Hoping for...gosh, I don't know what I'm hoping for, it's just a dumb annual exam. Hoping she can magically make this HSG test available to me...and make the results come out good. Crap. I had not realized just how sad I'm feeling until this exact moment, as I'm writing this. I'm going to bed. Gute nacht.
Awww, ladies, this is some sad stuff you are going through. I am so sorry. I will be thinking of you / praying for you tonight. (hugs)
Lots of activity here....
@nowakasia I'm sorry you got some news that was less than welcome today. Give yourself a little time to process and know that you have lots of options available and a great chance of getting a baby despite the test results.
@alzora I'm sorry your sad. I know when a trusted person gives you a theory it's natural to take it on as truth. But it's still just that, a theory, until proven. Keep your head up and keep peeing on those ovulation sticks! Start trying before you get a positive so you have some eager sperm at the ready! I use them once a day (usually late morning) till I get a positive and then do twice a day to see when the surge ends. Mine lasted 48 hrs this month so I'm still not sure when in there I ovulated but I know those swimmers were in position! Also, I wanted to say that your comment about wanting to make a home and raise your family really resonated w me. I'm a nurse by profession and was 2 semesters from graduating w my nurse practitioner degree when I had my first daughter. I took a leave of absence with the intention of going back the following semester.... She just turned 4 and I've never looked back! I've worked per diem here and there just to stay in the game but I'm a stay at home mom and would not trade it for anything on this planet! It works for me and my family and I am incredibly fulfilled. It's refreshing to hear you talk about staying at home so positively.
@blade...pee on a stick already!!
As for me, my period is due tomorrow. I tested yesterday morning (I just couldn't help myself!) and bfn. I so badly want to test in the morning but will wait another day I suppose. No real symptoms (but plenty of somatic ones) to speak of. Fingers crossed!