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NEW YORK BABY NAMES: Big competition in the Big Apple

Journalist and New York City mom Laura Dunphy reports that the pressure is on for Gotham parents to choose baby names that are more creative, more unusual, cooler than those anyone else is using. But no matter how hard you try, you still might not make it.

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Ah, New York, New York.  If you can make it here, you can make it anywhere.  And if you can name your baby here without needing therapy or Xanax, then I applaud you.

That’s because like everything else in NYC, baby naming is intense.  If most people think naming children is a pleasant activity, like badminton or a picnic, Manhattanites treat it as a competitive sport, like rugby or bond trading.

The drama stems not just from our huge population, but from the fact that every neighborhood is jam-packed with thousands of people just like you, drawn to that ’hood, that block, that building for the same reasons you were.  In short, they share your taste.  And when you’re surrounded by people who share your taste, it’s only natural to feel competitive when there’s finally an opportunity to distinguish yourself.  What better way than to choose an enviable name for your offspring?

In my downtown neighborhood of Greenwich Village, residents still feel connected to the area’s artsy bohemian roots.  Creativity is prized above all else, so America’s favorite names aren’t necessarily preferred here.

I admit the name Sophie was growing in popularity when I bestowed it on my daughter.  But there were only 291 Sophies born in all of New York State that year – what’s the chance we’d meet another one in our tiny little corner of the city?

Well, on our first trip to the pediatrician, we sat in the waiting room with two other Sophies.  Our first mommy-and-me group had two Sophies and one Sophia.  The Social Security Administration list shows that Sophie just broke into the Top 100 names countrywide, but it often feels like it’s in the Top 10 among parents in the Village.

I started paying closer attention, and it turns out that even when you’re going off the radar, you’re still not as clever as you think you are.

Disappointed by how common Sophie felt, my husband and I updated our favorite names list, with originality as a key factor.  We thought we’d found a hidden gem in Dashiell – not even in the SSA’s top 1000! — whom we could call Dash.  We then toured a handful of preschools, and there was a Dashiell or Dash in every single one of them.  (Met another one this morning, in fact.)

Names that have creative appeal, like Felix, Penelope and Tatum, are depressingly common.  I’ve even heard such outliers as Anton, Cedric and Odessa at least once.

New mothers are constantly bummed by this side effect of city life.  On a message board for downtown parents, one mom recently posted a question regarding her infant son, Porter, and got a response from another mom with a newborn named Porter.  The first mother seemed shocked, and even a little defensive – “I can’t believe we met another PorterDo you mind if I ask how you came up with it?  We used it because it’s a family name.”

Ah, the family name defense.  Shaking the family tree is one of the most acceptable ways for a Manhattanite to ascribe superiority to the choice of a name.

At a downtown playground, a mom watched her little girl take turns on a slide with a curly-headed boy.  The boy’s father came up to observe the fun. “What’s her name?” Cool Dad asked the Mom.

“It’s Storr, a family name,” the Mom replied.  “But we call her Storri.”

“Awesome!  Is that with a “y” or an “i”?” Cool Dad asked, not missing a beat.

This “Storri” is a great example of a name that jumps on a celebrity bandwagon (Jenna Elfman’s Story Elias, Minnie Driver’s Henry Story), but has a personal connection that can give you the upper hand if you meet someone who got the idea from Minnie Driver.  Basically, Storri is cool; Story, not so much.

As for ownership of a name, specific rules apply: thou shalt not use a friend’s name, unless it was already on your list at the time that her baby was born, and you made it clear at that time that you loved it.  Trust me, even friends can become frenemies over the topic.  At a local playground, I heard one mother ranting about a pal who’d named her new baby daughter Tallulah: “She hasn’t spoken to me since she did it, because we both know she stole it from my Tallulah.”  (Apparently this complaining mother forgot that she herself “stole” it from Bruce Willis and Demi Moore, but that’s another story.)

So what’s an expectant parent to do?  To find out, I asked two neighborhood friends who are both expecting their second children, to see what they wish they’d known the first time around and how they’re handling the task of naming #2.

My friend Cherylyn loves her daughter Sophia’s name, but did confess, “I’m just so bummed that it’s one of the most popular names.”  For daughter #2, due in late November, she and her husband are slowly whittling down a list of favorites.  “We’re definitely trying to find something more unique,” she said, adding that she keeps her ears open when she’s at the park or zoo.  If she hears a name too many times, it drops off the list.

My friend Lucy is still pleased that she named her daughter Scarlett, saying it’s just distinctive enough that they almost never meet another one.  But for Girl #2, due any minute, she and her husband are opting for an even more alternative choice.  Emboldened by some of the names she’s heard, Lucy is confident that Baby #2 will fit in with any uniquely named peers.  While the name will remain a surprise until the baby’s arrival, a traditional middle will balance the unusual first.

Lucy’s sure that her friends in the city will be delighted, and maybe even envious, but her English mother might not see the appeal: “I know my mother’s going to say, ‘You can’t name her that!’”

Well I say, sure you can.  Just be prepared to meet another one on the first day of preschool.

As a journalist, Laura Dunphy has covered everything from Hollywood celebrities to the U.S. Congress.  She lives in New York City with her husband, daughter and dog.

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25 Responses to “NEW YORK BABY NAMES: Big competition in the Big Apple”
disa_lan Says:

October 13th, 2009 at 1:36 am

I love this blog! As much as we all want to be unique we are all much more alike than any of us would care to admit. The world is small and there more people with our same great taste then we think.

LyndsayJenness Says:

October 13th, 2009 at 3:25 am

This was such a great blog! I’d love to be an NYC baby-namer, I’d use something really funky that all my suburban friends and family would hate!
I named my son Dashiell, nn Dash and ever since have heard about “My friends-friend so-and-so in New York named her baby Dashiell.” Lol,well, that’s the handful of people who have heard it and can pronounce it and know it’s a boy’s name!

Elea Says:

October 13th, 2009 at 3:35 am

Very interesting post! What has always made me chuckle is that parents looking for ‘different’ names tend to still be sheep-like in their choice of a ‘unique’ name. They want their baby’s name to be different, but they still want it to be liked, so they tend to go for names that have a familiar ring or fit a style that is popular (Evan instead of Ava, Arden instead of Harper, Opal instead of Ruby/Jade).

If they truly wanted it to be unique, they would go for a name that is so unlike any name that is currently popular — how many girls called Basmat are we likely to meet? — but then that risks the name encountering universal dislike. So instead they go for a name with a familiar ring, and get het up when other parents naturally followed the same pattern ;)

peach Says:

October 13th, 2009 at 3:44 am

Being from the other coast, it’s amusing to be updated on the competitive “sport” of naming new Manhattanites. I can’t count the number of times I hear someone say “I want to name my child something different, maybe Sophie or Max…” But the extent to which some New Yorkers will go to be unique can be mystifying. I hope you’ll let us know when those new babies names are revealed!

Andrea Says:

October 13th, 2009 at 8:19 am

The coolest thing of all would be to ignore the whole thing and just name the kid what you like.

Abby Says:

October 13th, 2009 at 9:32 am

Great article! LOL at the Storri story – we’re in Metro DC, and while it isn’t nearly as competitive as your ‘hood, I’ve heard the exact same things. (Parents jealously guarding the fact that they plan to name a daughter Esme; Matilda touted as an old family name; the choice of hero names like Strummer …)

And yes, Peach – I have to bite my tongue every time I hear parents say cite “different” names, too. :)

Elisabeth@YCCII Says:

October 13th, 2009 at 9:37 am

So true, so true.

Sophia is rampant in NYC, followed closely by Olivia, Ava, and Ella. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Max and Henry are the most popular names BY FAR for boys in my area.

Sophie, Dashiell, and Tatum all make an appearance on this week’s city kids list.

Where to go that’s familiar but rare? Not so far afield that it’s considered “ugly”, yet still the only one in his class?

I try to answer this question everyday on my blog. In a few days, will post an article specifically answering this very post and the query of the modern urban namer.

Oh, and that picture of Kerry Russell? I have those shoes, that stroller, and that bunting sack. I also know several children who share her son’s name, River.

n Says:

October 13th, 2009 at 9:48 am

This posting is soooo true. If you want any doubt, take a look at my daughter’s preschool class list. There is a Max and an Emily but everything else is so different it’s not even funny. Anywhere else…it would seem odd. But not here.

Diana Says:

October 13th, 2009 at 10:32 am

I hate it when a name you have loved for years, that was unusual when you first chose it, finally becomes popular just when you are ready to have a baby. I loved the name Mia ever since I was a young girl, well before it became popular.

When I finally got ready to have her, I think the name was in the top 25, now it is apparently number 14. It annoys me that I don’t appear original in my choice of names, when I actually was original if you consider when I first became enamored of the name. So, I had the choice of forgoing one of my favorite names of all time in order to be original, or to choose the name i have loved for 25 years and be thought conformist. I chose to go with the name and it really annoys me when people assume I have no originality. I actually believe people are starting to become ‘name snobs’. And although I think it is really cool when you choose an original name, I don’t think you should look down your nose at people who didn’t. After all, you don’t know the story behind their name.

Also, another point I would like to make using Mia as an example, where I live Mia is not even in the top 25. I worked at a children’s hospital and I would see the name of every child who came through on the tubes of blood that I tested, and I never saw a Mia one time in all the time I worked there. I have also never run into a Mia at my children’s daycare, or their schools and neither has my sister.

So, the popularity of names apparently varies widely depending on location and what may appear to be a common choice in one place may have actually been somewhat original in another.

SJ Says:

October 13th, 2009 at 10:58 am

I agree with Diana about the “name snobs”–I think that if I were in a highly-competitive area like the one in the blog, I would be tempted to “give up” on looking for something “different” and go with a historically-common, but beautiful, name like Elizabeth or William. Of course, in a classroom of Ava, Arden, and Tallulah, Elizabeth would stand out!

I also agree with Andrea… If you give your child a name whose only attribute is “cool,” whose only purpose is the one-upmanship of the neighbors–what does that say about the person you want your child to become? Always go with a name that you love, whether it’s #1 on your block or never heard before on the planet.

Sarah K Says:

October 13th, 2009 at 11:04 am

What you might also remember is that the popular names and neighborhood and who you meet are not an accident, there’s also an element of socioeconomic status, community, and culture at work. NYC Department of Health lists popular baby names by race and gender on their website. Really interesting stuff. You’ll see that among non-Hispanic whites, Esther and Chaya are in the top 10 for NYC. Baby Esthers and Chayas probably aren’t too common in the Village and baby Sophies probably aren’t that common in Boro Park.

Our daughter is a Upper West Side baby, where she was surrounded by Ellas and Olivias and Sophias. We’re now in the Southwest and her friends names aren’t that different – though more Ellies than Ellas for some reason. We haven’t changed cultural communities, just location.

Kate Says:

October 13th, 2009 at 11:29 am

Now I’m dying to know what Lucy is going to name her second kid! I really hope we get an update!

Annika Says:

October 13th, 2009 at 12:47 pm

Very interesting blog. I recently read an article about the Kreuzberg Quarter in Berlin which in the last few years became THE hip part of town with a lot of academics, bohemiens and young, environmental aware families living in lofts or restaurated old appartment buildings. It seems to be the same there as in Greenwich. The names that are hip there are sometimes completely deifferent from the national favorites. You’ll find a lot more Matildas and Friedrichs there for example. Also, just a few days ago I heard a mother in a museum (not in Berlin though) call her son “Anselm”. So your probably right: In the end this hipster competetion is quite similar to the competition of people who try to come up with unique spellings and invernted names…

k_lareese Says:

October 13th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

I really enjoyed reading this blog. It makes me feel better about my decision in naming my daughter. I named my daughter Lilianna despite the popularity of Lily and all the derivatives. Originally my husband and I were trying to find an original name. Unfortuantely, we could never agree. Of course, the two names we were stuck on certainly would have been fairly unique. However, they would not have been original because one was from a video game and the other was a place name. It was when I realized that we would never find an original name no matter how hard we tried. Sure, we could find one that was not necessarily going to be common, but would we truly love it and would it have meaning to us? As many posters have pointed out, I decided that in this society where (even outside of NYC) we feel driven to be original and find non-conforming names, we are really just conforming in a different way. Being confident in yourself and in your choices is really the way to go. So, when my husband and I came across Lilianna and decided we liked it, we didn’t just remove from our list because it was getting insanely popular. And then when we talked with family we discovered that just about everyone loved the name, had some connection with it, or pointed out some cool meaning that tied it back to us or the rest of the family. And that sealed the deal. We were considering the name before we found this wonderful meaning behind the name, so I cannot even claim “superiority” through that. However, the meaning helped us settle on the fact that we would never feel more confident and sure with any other name. So, my daughter is one of many Lilianna’s and other Lily’s and Lily derivatives. But when I meet someon who says, “Oh, my granddaughter (or friend’s daughter, neighbor…) has that name!” I just smile and say, “Yes, it is quite the lovely name. Blessed is a child with such a wonderful name.”

Laura Says:

October 13th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

Hi all – thanks for the great remarks.

I should note that I’ve never heard a parent say that another parent has chosen an unoriginal name. I think this kind of criticism is something we place on ourselves, not others. What happens instead is that extraordinary praise is given to particularly inspired choices. So you know where you stand based on the level of enthusiasm.

vanessa Says:

October 13th, 2009 at 3:59 pm

I love this. I don’t live in New York, but I am still as competitive and crazed about my baby names as they are. Thanks for making me laugh today.

susan Says:

October 13th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

What a great blog! If I lived in Manhattan, I would name my kids names that I really loved rather than trying to be hip and picking names that everyone else was picking. Philip and Francine nn Francie would be great choices. But then they’d go to nursery school and there would be three Philips and four Francines!

Wv Says:

October 13th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

I believe this is a celebrity culture driven trend. Parents are both trying to name there kids in a “cool” way like celebrities, and probably hoping at some deep level that there children just might end up being celebrities.

My husband and I both have different names and have never met anyone with our same names. When naming our daughter we ended up with something not commonly heard, but not completely foreign either (like the 700’s onthe SS list). This isn’t something we were trying for, it’s just where we ended up. Still haven’t met another child with her same name, but have heard of them being around, which is just fine with me.

I think people are trying so hard to be different that the trend will reverse (as they always do) and go back to more traditional names.

One more thing. I find if funny that the parents with names that were trendy 30 years ago (Jennifer, Amy, Jessica, etc) try to be different now and they all come up with the same names (Sophia, Ella, Isabella, Ava, Madison). This is really drawing me to the classic names for our next baby: guaranteed to not feel dated in another 30 years.

http://legitbabenames.wordpress.com/ Says:

October 13th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

The names mentioned such as Sophie, Porter, Tatum, Felix and Penelope are not that surprising. All are nice names, but definitely up and coming, in fact in Chicago, I wouldn’t be surprised to run into a few, I don’t believe its just in New York where you’ll run into hipster names. In my Chicago neighborhood alone there are 3 Giovannis, 1 Giuseppe, 1 Francesca, several Giannas and Sophias and a variety of authentic Gaelic names that have slipped my mind. I’m sure all those parents thought they were being unique yet traditional when they chose those names. My opinion is choose the name you love then worry about popularity. This was a fascinating article.

Charlotte Vera Says:

October 14th, 2009 at 2:43 am

Ahhh, great blog. I don’t live in a city nearly as community conscious as the various parts of New York seem to be, but I too have seen the tendency in groups of people to all have similar tastes in names.

Elizabeth Says:

October 14th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

In the course of my work I’ve met a few Australians, and have noticed a trend in Australian naming that might feed the need for a unique name that expectant American couples might want to try. One person I met was named Jamaria, a combination of her father’s name (James) and her mother’s (Maria). Another Australian I knew was named Trilby Roux — the Trilby was chosen because the parents liked the sound of it, the Roux, because the baby had red hair.

Another way of naming, which I use when playing The Sims, is to make a first name from the mother’s last name. I had a Sim named Elspeth Ridgeley. Her grandson was named Ridge, after Ridgeley. His sister was named Willow, after Eugenia Willow, her paternal grandmother.

There are probably lots of ways to creating non-quirky yet original names if look outside the established group of names we select from.

Victoria Says:

October 16th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

A friend who is also expecting were talking about this. Although we live in the suburbs I think that it’s almost more competitive here. Soccer moms who all think that the name belongs to them. We are both teachers at the same school and we saw two mothers at kindergarten registration last year ranting about the other one to friends. They both had daughters named Lilian nn. Lily and they both claimed that they were family names.

Me and my friends do tend to have the same taste in names. I’m naming my baby Primrose Victoria/Ezekiel Thomas and she’s naming her baby Theodora Jane/Conrad James.

emzalee Says:

October 23rd, 2009 at 7:04 pm

I stole “Tallulah” for my daughter from Tallulah Bankhead, not from Demi – in fact, I pre-named my future daughter way back when I was 10 years old and fell in love with the name when I heard my mom discussing it as an option for my new unborn baby sibling. I was so mad when Demi chose it! I thought I was so original :) . I still used it though and I am happy I did. For daughter number 2 I will choose the name Doris, which I am HOPEFUL no one in Hollywood or hipsterville will make popular!

Vane Says:

October 27th, 2009 at 6:33 pm

I made the huge mistake of mentioning to a girlfriend the name I wanted to use in case I ever had a baby boy (which is Santiago), and she liked it and told me she would use it too if she ever had a boy!! I was so angry!! That was years ago and she had a baby girl a year ago and I havent had babies yet, but if a have a baby boy I will not use Santiago anymore, I have like three acquiantences that have boys with that name, so I now have a SECRET list of name for my future children! Lesson learned!

yomama615 Says:

November 13th, 2009 at 6:23 pm

Ha, this article really struck a chord with me. I feel like I see both ends of the spectrum all the–parents agonizing that their kid’s name is too popular or parents picking names that sounds original to them, but are exceedingly popular. My husband and I have a hard time agreeing on names, especially boys’ names, because although I have a name that was about at #60 when I was born, his name is Jason, and he hates, hates, hates it. So now he’s on a rampage to find names that weren’t at the top of the charts in any decade anywhere. “Valerie” I’ll say, “Popular in the 1980s” he’ll say, “Dmitri,” I’ll say, “Extremely common in Russia,” he responds, and so forth.

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